I've spoken on this many times, but the only difference between a reputable dealer and a puppy mill is how often they clean the cages. They are both bringing unwanted animals into the world for profit, and deserve nothing but scorn. I would never get an animal anywhere but at a shelter, and the idea of paying $600 for an animal while many are being put to sleep is abhorrent. Sure, you might have to wait a bit if you want the latest flavor of the month, or a cute puppy. I'd give my cash to a terrorist before any kind of "breeder". I would equate what they do with the folks who buy up web sites...sadly legal, but very unethical and a pathetic way to make a living. RoCo, I'm sorry for your loss. We've had Ronnie 8 years, and we can't imagine life without him.