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Garcia has over 830 games played in the major leagues and has proven to be a .750 OPS, 102 OPS+ player; about league average maybe a little better. Maybe fans didn't like his profile when he came aboard, but those same folks should know by now GM has a thing for athletic outfielders who can play all three spots, etc. As opposed to the plodding corner outfielders who hit 25+ homers and play defense as if its secondary. At a point in the year where 15 ABs can make a player look like Mickey Mantle or Jim Abbott at the bat, Garcia will be fine. Other than Omar Narvaez, the Brewers haven't had a single player get hot yet. Despite that they remain in first place. Nothing to see here folks.
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Where's Ryan Braun when you need him -
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He hasn't "turned out" anything just yet...Too early to tell. He needs to be straightened out for sure. I refuse to believe he is a lost cause. I'm not totally throwing in the towel either, but what is going on with him is far from an easy fix. I hope he figures it out. But he'd be one of many on a long list of top hitting prospects who started out strong and then flamed out quickly when the league figured them out. He looks so outclassed at this level. I think that is exactly it. He came up in 2019 and tore the cover off the ball until there was video of him and pitchers adjusted to attack his timing. So far he hasn't been able to make a counter adjustment, there's still time but he's simply not a big league player right now.
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You aren’t fooling anyone. Avi hasn’t been a good baseball player for the majority of his career. I agree with you, but Garcia wasn't terrible before coming to Milwaukee. His career OPS was .750. Big, fast, played a lot of games because he broke in at a young ago, so maybe some unrealized potential. It just hasn't worked out so far. The good news is they need him right now, and when they get healthy he can split time, and they'll move on.
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Holy smokes, we agree on something.
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Daniel Robertson would dispute that notion, but yeah terrible defense and striking out at a 41% clip there's no reason for him to even be in the lineup now regardless if minor leagues are open or not.
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Hiura is just awful. At some point they have to go with McKinney or Vogelbach at first and have Hiura go down and refine his game.
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So what? Pitchers are worth more than hitters, always. Plus, you need to take a look carefully at the stat sheets and what comparable players are getting paid. Joe Musgrove has a career 1.20 whip, FIP of 3.82 and had multiple seasons of team control left when traded. If he was a free agent he'd be an 18 million dollar a year pitcher. Ditto with Snell, since winning the hardware in 2018 he has a whip of 1.24 and a FIP of 3.65 and he came with three years left on his deal at a bargain price of 40 million dollars. As for Darvish, he was the 2nd best pitcher behind Bauer in the NL last year. He came to San Diego with 3 years and 56 million dollars on his contract after the Cubs kicked in 3 million dollars. With Bauer at 38 million per year, Gerrit Cole at 36 million dollars per year, Scherzer at 34 million Strasburg at 32 million, etc these are bargain contracts the Padres picked up, and they did it all without giving away much of their top level minor leaguers. Thus, the hypothetical that they'd somehow give up a package of top minor league player to get a hitter (albeit a good one) is the stuff of make believe.
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Who are the Marlins? After making the playoffs and winning a playoff series last year, they jettisoned their GM. Most of their regular starters are in their 30s: Jesus Aguilar, Miguel Rojas, Corey Dickerson, Starling Marte, Adam Duvall, Garrett Cooper. Their rotation is all players in their early 20's, but the bullpen is mostly journeyman pitchers in their 30s. Another example of a franchise with no direction: not enough talent to compete and a pile of mediocre veterans soaking up playing time.
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Almost a month into the 2021 season and the Brewers are in first place, have the 3rd best record in the NL and Wong, Yelich and Cain have been down with injuries for the majority of the games this year.... if it ain't broke no reason to fix it!
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I literally suggested the name of a hypothetical post-2019 contending team in my original reply to you on this in post #73. And when did I ever imply that these hypothetical prospects wouldn't have growing pains or risk failing? Never. I simply disputed your contention that if the Brewers had shopped Yelich post-2019, they would have received less than what they gave up for him. Nothing more. I know, and I chose to ignore it. How many dynamite prospects did the Padres give up this off-season to reload their team Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, Joe Musgrove? (Luis Patino #3, Blake Hunt #25 for Snell, Hudson Head #20 and David Bednar #30 for Musgrove, Preciado #22 and Mena #23 for Darvish...according to MLB 2019 Top 30 prospects). You're citing a the Padres as a hypothetical example, of a team willing to give up a tasty prospect haul to get a star veteran, when they made three such trades in the last six months and gave up only one player who was in their top ten and amongst the top 100 in the game in the process. You're right the Brewers could've swapped Yelich off after 2019 and gotten a big haul... of some other team's second tier prospects that wouldn't have helped in the short-run and would take years to learn if they help in the long run. (And for what it's worth Miami got Yamamoto plus Brinson #1, Isan Diaz #4, Harrison #20 for Yelich according to Sickels's 2017 list)
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Why would a team trade someone like Yelich with three years left on a very team friendly contract? It would be like Trading Woodruff or Burnes this offseason. I supported the idea of trading Yelich with one year left but not three. Well the point I was responding was not in debate of the hypothetical of whether or not we would do that, it was whether of not another team would give up a significant return, which I said they would. But to answer your question -- because trade value depends heavily on the control remaining, and to your point, cheap control. A player on Yelich's level is worth significantly more when the control is more. If you trade him with one year left you're selling for significantly less. Obviously, doing so depends significantly on the state of your franchise. I wouldn't trade Woodruff or Burnes after this season either. I would have significantly considered trading Woodruff if this were post-2015 Brewer season and they were at where they are now with 3 years remaining, depending on the offer. Yes in the complete video game/fantasy world I suppose the Brewers could’ve ignored as you put it, “the state of their franchise” and traded Yelich as you suggested. In this same make believe fantasy world I suppose they could’ve gotten a half dozen dynamite prospects that would’ve plugged immediately into the lineup so the major league team didn’t miss a beat and actually became much stronger without any growing pains or risk of those prospects failing. Which goes without addressing what contending team would be potentially desperate enough to sell off their future to add a position player
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Yesterday Cubs left 8 on men on base and went 1-8 with RISP. That’s they they lost not a missed call on a 0-0 count in the bottom of the 9th
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Tough crowd. Shaw leads the Brewers in extra base hits through the first 20 games. His 15 RBI shows he’s been putting the ball in play with men on base, and he played solid D. At a point where a big game or two will cause slash lines will fluctuate significantly, what’s not to like with Shaw’s second tenure?
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Knebel Traded to the Dodgers for PTBNL [LHP Leo Crawford]
Jopal78 replied to markedman5's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Reposting for effect. I wish Corey the best, but a nice reminder that 4 innings means absolutely nothing vs. the big picture. So you’d cut Woodruff loose if he blew out his elbow tomorrow? Knebel is an all-star. He had TJ surgery. 80% of pitchers will have a major arm injury at some point. It was a cost cutting measure plain and simple, people can debate that all day long with both sides having merit. Sniping with “told ya so” is the lowest form of debate. -
Less than they gave up? Look at Realmuto, not an MVP but plays a premium defensive position and had two years of control remaining when dealt. He brought back an average major league catcher (Alfaro) a nice pitching prospect (Sanchez) and a low level pitching prospect. Teams giving up huge prospect hauls for veterans are becoming increasingly rare
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MRI would show muscle tears, herniated disc. Doesn’t sound like he’ll be back anytime soon. A herniated disc would list be a painful condition he’d have to play through, or miss a huge chunk of the season trying to heal it with rest or a discectomy
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Another deception and finesse pitcher who struggled throwing strikes against big league hitters, let’s hope he does better this time around than his cup of coffee last year. With the team a MASH unit, they’re already four deep from the minors. Jordan Zimmermann will be up soon at this rate
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I still think it was a good low risk signing. The upside was clear. The downside has basically been realized, and it doesn’t really hurt that bad. I'm still not sure why if they didn't want 3 years of control they couldn't have structured it in a way like Jeffress got in his last deal with us where we did 1 year followed by two team options, even if the first year and total potential was a little more than the actual deal. It's not so much that the money is the end of the world but I think in a lot of cases the dead money causes teams to carry players longer than they normally would or should. After being the Cy Young of Korea, there was some buzz about Lindblom in the 2019 offseason which probably required a 3 year guarantee to get him. The Brewers always seem to have a pitcher in their pen making decent coin for a reliever and sucking on the field: Matt Albers, Neftali Felix, Jonathon Broxton, Axford, etc. Lindblom can pencil his name in with those folks. Best case scenario they don’t need him except to pitch games where a losing outcome is no longer in doubt when they call his number
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For a front office that hasn't made a ton of mistakes over the year, it is surprising how badly they missed on Lindblom. He isn't a major league caliber pitcher.
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He should have stayed in Korea. What a bum
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billy mckinney appreciation thread; traded to mets 25 may
Jopal78 replied to djoctagone's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
and played stellar defense. He has had some clutch hits, not just 2 homers. Yes, it's early, he could fade, but has looked great so far. Maybe he's figured it out, I hope he has, as a reminder to how hard sustained success is in MLB... Keon Broxton put up an .860 OPS while playing phenomenal defense over 400ish PA's from the end of 2016 to midway through 2017. Then, poof, it was gone. Then again, Broxton wasn’t a former first round pick and top 100 prospect. It’s early but there is such a thing as a player reaching their full potential. If he keeps it up, it will only make the team more formidable. -
Nottingham had surgery on his thumb... [Latest: DFA’d by Mariners]
Jopal78 replied to TURBO's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
i know that there's a huge age difference, but jonathan lucroy cleared outright waivers after slashing .357 /.357 /.429 with the nationals in five games. he opted for free agency and is still unsigned. Lucroy is what he is at this point in his career - a replacement-level catcher on a 1-year contract. Nottingham, on the other hand, still has some perceived upside, and would be under cheap control for the next five seasons. Does he? He came over in 2016 as a a “bat first” catching prospect. Other than Colorado Springs he’s been a middling hitter in the minor leagues, and is no longer young at 26. The entire time he’s been in the organization they’ve been looking for a long term answer at catcher. He hasn’t been ready as either the starter of the back up so they signed Grandal and traded for Narvaez. Plus they’ve cycled through journeymen Jett Bandy, Erik Kratz, and Dave Freitas to soak up at bats in the majors. He had a bit of bad luck with injuries this spring, but the fact of the matter is despite multiple seasons of team control remaining, the Brewers believe they’re better off with Narvaez and Pina and that they have 40 players who offer more than Nottingham. I’m sure he could find an opportunity elsewhere but like Lucroy. He is what he is -
I'd prefer the Cubs stay just relevant enough (while staying firmly behind the Brewers in the standings) that they feel forced to hang on to all their impending free agents, and not have the opportunity to sell them at the deadline to restock their system. I don't know. Game 163 was the start of the unraveling. I think it would be poetic for the Brewers to put the final nail in the coffin of that group. But yes, this also would work for me with dealing with the Cubs. Don't you want to see Rizzo hitting clean up for the Brewers in August, September and October? So far, the Cubs don't appear to have the pitching to stay in the race. More specifically, Jake Arrieta is the only starter averaging 5 innings per start, which is only going to tax a bullpen which is comprised of a resurgent Kimbrel and a bunch of medicore retreads: Tepera, Chafin, Rex Brothers, Workman, Winkler. They further taxed their pen by sending Azolay to the ATS due to ineffectiveness and moved Alec Mills from the pen to the rotation.
