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Mid 1st round picks are traded for players all the time. I don't understand how asking for the Jets #1 is such an enormous ask. Jets fans are treating that pick like it's Walter Payton's incarnate, though.
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What a dumpster fire this is turning into. Just trade him for anything at this point. Be done. This is turning into a he said/he said thing. I'm personally more inclined to believe Gute than I am Rodgers at this point. Rodgers is great at creating drama and skirting blame, though, so I'm sure he'll do that again in short order. His whole introductory presser with the Jets is going to be bashing the Packers organization. Just watch ...
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While this wouldn't surprise me, the thought of it is kind of disgusting. I'm kinda hoping that team implodes, but I doubt it will. The only real issue I see for them is uncertainty in their rotation ... but they always kind of seem to be able to pull solid starting pitchers out of thin air, or convince some terribly-run teams to give them a few basically for free. That said, A LOT went right for the Cardinals to do what they did last year. The luck always runs out eventually. -
I don't think there is any chance that things have progressed to this point without there being negotiations between the Jets and Packers. THis has been going on for weeks now, and the Jets put the full-court press on Rodgers. I think that there was already a trade agreed to previously, but now it is likely that the Jets are making an attempt to lessen the compensation going back to the Packers, or are asking the Packers to take on more of Rodgers' salary. If they are only offering the Favre package, I'd tell them to pound sand.
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The Packers were backed into a corner in 2008 with Favre, and had to get him out of there, so they ended up taking pennies on the dollar in regard to his value. That most assuredly is not the case now. What Rodgers came out and said today was nearly a best case scenario. About the only way it could have gone better for them was if he made it his intention to play at least two more seasons.
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That's inaccurate. Yes, he wants to play for the Jets. But the Packers certainly don't HAVE to trade him. He's already on the books. The Packers can sit on his contract until the Jets meet their asking price. And you can bet that the Jets fanbase is going to go crazy if this drags out. Part of me thinks the Packers and Jets already have agreed to the basics of a deal, and now the Jets are reneging. That isn't going to end well for them.
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What is interesting to me, now, is that we're finally going to see Lafleur's full offensive vision, and not the hybrid version that Rodgers has run the last few years. I both appreciate everything that Aaron Rodgers brought to this franchise over the years, and am excited by the prospect of what's to come.
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They'll likely sign someone like Marcus Mariota. Similar playing style to Love, and already familiar with Lafleur and his offense.
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Sad trombone
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Packers ended up getting a 3rd, but it was a conditional pick that could have gone all the way to a 1st had Favre led the Jets deep into the playoffs. Also, that trade was orchestrated in August after training camp had already begun. The Packers were backed into a corner. There's a little more wiggle room now.
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LOL entitled fanbase is entitled. Now there is scuttlebutt that the holdup is that the Packers are demanding multiple 1st rounders. I predict that they'll get a 2nd this year, and a conditional pick next year based on if Rodgers plays in 2024, and how well he/the Jets do.
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Waller makes around $11 million per year for the next 3 seasons. Plus he'll be 31 in September. Last couple seasons under Rodgers? Sure. Now, looking at a rebuild while in cap purgatory until that Rodgers dead money is cleared? Nope.
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Lazard's skillset is definitely pretty redundant to what Corey Davis does, so I wonder if Davis (on a reworked contract) could possibly be part of the return coming back for Rodgers? Wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Denzel Mims too. Elijah Moore's name has been thrown around as well.
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I dunno. He's probably more name than substance at this point. He looked like he was running with cement shoes in Lambeau in December. I suppose as a mentor type for the young WRs he'd be ok, but they can probably do better production-wise for that role.
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They did a bunch of restructures last week, and are now safely under the cap.
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Well, you aren't wrong.
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That's where I'm at as well. I would expect this year's 1st rounder, and anything more than that is gravy. Anything less than that, though, and I'd be pretty disappointed. I realize that it's different situations, but the package that Denver gave up last offseason for Russell Wilson was pretty huge for a player who was coming off a pretty bad 2021 season in Seattle. Granted Wilson is quite a bit younger, but he looked done in Seattle, and he followed it up by looking washed in Denver. But Wilson has never been in Rodgers' stratosphere talent-wise, either.
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Not too difficult to come to this conclusion when you read between the lines, but Russini is typically pretty solid on her scoops. I think Packer fans need to come to the realization that big changes are in order. At this point, I just hope to not be underwhelmed by the trade return. If it's something like a 2nd and a conditional pick next year, I'm going to be disappointed ... especially considering what other mediocre QBs have been valued at via trade (washed Russell Wilson) or via free agency (Jones, Carr, etc.) Teams are paying a premium for even average QB play, so if Rodgers has pledged to play multiple years for the Jets, the compensation needs to be significant.
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I've heard this idea thrown around before that the Packers are going to go back to the 70s/80s version once Rodgers is gone, should Love not work out, and I don't buy it. Well-run NFL organizations typically are able to right the ship quickly and effectively. I personally think that, while Favre and Rodgers certainly deserve their share of the credit, the organization itself has been run well over the last 30 years, and I don't buy that it's suddenly going to fall off a cliff. Not for a second.
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I think most appreciate what he has done on the field over the last 15 years. I also think many have grown tired of the off-the-field weirdness.
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Perhaps. But I also think at this point there's simply too much smoke for there not to be any flames.
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It would be an obvious open-and-shut case of tampering if the Jets had talked to Rodgers without the Packers' permission.
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The Brewers regularly have a 3rd catcher on the 40 man roster who has options available so they can stash him in Nashville. It certainly does appear that Henry is that guy this year.
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The crux of this is that the Jets wouldn't have been able to speak with Rodgers unless they had the Packers' permission. This, to me at least, means that the Packers as an organization agree with you that it is time for a separation. It wouldn't surprise me if Rodgers talks to the Raiders and Dolphins as well. Then its a matter of the Packers accommodating not only where Rodgers wants to play, but also what the compensation would be, because a player of Rodgers magnitude (even if he isn't the player he was just a few years ago) would immediately make whichever team he goes to a Super Bowl contender.
