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Perspective... Peter Bukowski - Rashan Gary is the same age as Devante Wyatt

They love their smokescreens

Big difference between marketing firms hiring people at a fraction of the salary who could be with them for 40 years vs NFL teams drafting athletes trying to time up their physical prime. It's no secret that the Packers idea of a successful draft pick is getting 2 contracts out them. They rarely make exceptions and give out that 3rd contract. We have countless examples of players performing at a high level that the Packers have bid adieu and then watched that player not live up to their 3rd contract elsewhere. Fan favorites at that. And of course that doesn't mean they hand out 2nd contracts to draft picks that don't pan out. Do be ridiculous. Again, teams draft players with the intention at the time that said player is going to be good. No one is writing the name on the card saying this guy is going to be terrible. And yes it does matter and it's not just Raimann. Here is a list of player pushing 23+ who might go in the first round that I'd happily make a friendly wager with anyone here that the Packers won't draft with either of their 1st round picks... Bernard Raimann Devin Lloyd Devonte Wyatt Trevor Penning (22.9) Jermaine Johnson Jalen Pitre (22.8) Boye Mafe Jaquan Brisker (22.9) Arnold Ebiketie Malik Willis Kenny Pickett Abraham Lucas Christian Watson (22.9) The bolded I've seen mocked to the Packers at either 22 or 28, or to other teams in that vicinity and linked to the Packers. It's not happening. No QB surprise this year either even if Kenny Pickett were to slide ala Aaron Rodgers. Some pretty juicy names there. I'd love to see Wyatt on the board at 22 and then read all the chatter in that 15 minute window that the Packers are surely taking him. Then laugh when they take someone else that they're perceived to be reaching for. Wyatt is 24 years old.

Thanks for looking that up. I had a feeling it extended beyond the first round for them and you just illustrated that. No doubt they'll make an exception from time to time in rounds 2-4 but I doubt we'll see a draft choice over 22 by Gute in round 1. Especially with that 5th year option.

If you want to leave open the possibility for an exception, go for it. Logically though it becomes clear that there's more to their first round draft pattern than a preference for simple youth. They're a draft and develop team that rarely makes exceptions when it comes to giving big money and 3rd contracts to players over 30. Knowing that, it makes all the sense in the world that they'd have a pretty strict rule criteria for 1st round picks when the number of players they have interest in is at its longest. Drafting a 24 year old with a first round pick means he's 29 after one contract. That's not value for a team that sets out to get as much of two contracts out of players before they hit 30. And every pick is made with the intent of the player panning out. You don't use a first rounder on a player whose best case scenario means giving him that one big extension when they're on the cusp of 30. The Packers want those most expensive years (the 2nd contract) to come in the player's physical prime (25-29).

They draft with the intent of getting 2 contracts out of players. They're not going to use a first rounder on someone with the intent on letting him walk after his first contract. I didn't contradict anything. I'm actually surprised what I stated isn't common knowledge by now. Gute's concrete preference for youth and athleticism from his first rounders is well documented. Just a really weird argument to make.

The Packers under Gutekunst are (wisely) a 2 contracts before 30 organization. They're not even considering a guy who will be on the doorstep of 30 after one contract with a first round pick. Under Gute the Packers have drafted 5 players in the first round in his four years. 4 of the 5 were age 21 and the other was 22. You can safely cross Raimann off your lists. Unless maybe he drops to the 2nd round where contracts max out at four years.

Lancaster is a free agent so the Reed signing could very well ensure he moves on to another team.

Giddyup!

Especially this week starting now. Spring training games set to begin on either the 17th or 18th. Both players and teams no doubt want to have as much of their roster fates settled by then.

Nice to be able to follow the MJS Brewers' beat writer on Twitter again.

Lol, I love the fact that in what should have been nothing more than a happy introduction, Brock immediately got a taste of what he's in store for. Good luck Brock, you'll need it. 10 cent advice: Do what you already knows works via your other board. You'll never please everybody here.

I find it odd how everyone just believes something called a Diana Russini when it hasn't been right about anything since the start of this saga

If you're trying to make sense of trading for Schroeder, the Bucks rank 29th in bench scoring all while trying to keep their starters around 30 minutes per game. Schroder could be looked at as one of the most impactful bench scorers the Bucks could acquire with their limited assets. That's not me saying I like Schroeder, just what the thinking might be. Budenholzer also coached him for 4 years in Atlanta so there's familiarity for both sides. As for adding another guard instead of a big, I would presume this means they're confident in Lopez's return AND/OR they have a target in the coming buyout market that they're very confident in landing. Just because another big is a clear need, it doesn't mean the Bucks won't try to address other weaknesses as well. Easily could see a piece added via trade and another via the buyout market.

Oh and btw, Miami was tanking for a top pick for a QB that turned out to be Joe Burrow. When they had a late season run taking them out of the running for the top pick, they offered Cincinnati three 1st round picks, including 5th overall, for the chance to draft Burrow. Who here thinks Miami fans wouldn't have preferred to suck more that year so they could have achieved the top pick everyone knew they trying to get when they were trading away veterans that entire year? If anything Dolphins fans are probably pissed Flores didn't take the 100K per loss.

Not sure who you think your audience is with this outrage, but when a team is spinning its wheels, many fans openly root for a tank. When a team with championship capabilities starts throwing games, then you'd have a unified basis for your angst. It's not hard to put 2+2 together and realize that Miami wanted to be at the top of the draft for a QB in 2019. They were trading useful players left and right that year in an effort not to win. They also had a really good rookie head coach. Coaches know that no matter how much ownership wants to maybe lose for one year, you can't just flip a switch when it's time to win. Flores also knew that a tank season still counts on your career coaching record and that could and would likely be used against him someday. When Flores began outperforming the team's hopes in the 2nd half of that season, that's probably when he was offered money to lose. Yes that's a problem, but fans weren't going to care how being bad was achieved, they were on board. The smart way for Miami to tank would have been to hire a stooge for a head coach that year. Then hire a Brian Flores after that top pick had been realized. Who knows, maybe Miami thought Flores was a stooge. They were wrong, he's a damn good coach.

Right, definitely a legitimate candidate. With the added bonus of increasing your chances to land that missing QB piece. I would think unless someone else blows them away, it gives Hackett a big leg up.

Feels like Denver is going to talk themselves into Hackett on the mere hope it might improve their chances of being the trade partner if Rodgers and the Packers mutually agree to part ways.

That's always been what they were going to try and do. They'd be crazy not to.

Small point, but if he was only a jerk to people who were jerks to him, he probably wouldn't be so disliked by many. Heck he might even be revered for that in this day and age. I never had any direct interaction with him but I saw him be awfully jerkish to people for no reason. I've seen his interactions and heard them (radio) and the guy just oozed hate for fans. I hope he stumbles upon this thread so he can see how he rubbed off on people.

I think we now know why the seemingly immortal Tom "could play till he's 50" Brady is suddenly thinking so hard about spending more time with his family. That Tampa roster is going to take some hits this offseason.

What team doesn't have injuries? The NFL is entirely about how you manage inevitable injuries, yet most teams still have spots for guys who wouldn't be on a roster if they didn't excel on special teams. Heck, like I said, the Packers themselves used to. They were extremely healthy last year and didn't carry any special teams studs. It appears to be an organizational shift in philosophy and it's probably time to reconsider.

Ranked 22nd (4 brackets, 4 six seeds, 4x6=24) on the strength of 3 straight wins over ranked teams. 5 total wins over ranked teams. Doesn't seem a little high at all to me.

He's actually got a point. Drayton has to go because he made already bad special teams, horrific. BUT, the Packers stopped dedicating roster spots to special teams aces and it has proven unwise. They've been using the bottom of the roster for developmental players on offense and defense first and foremost. Now is that an philosophical shift or have they tried to identify a couple ST aces and whiffed? I suppose the latter is possible but it doesn't seem like they're trying. Other teams carry 2-3 players who are really only emergency options on offense / defense whose primary role is either as a returner or a gunner on return coverage. Usually 1 returner and 1-2 return coverage specialists. The Patriots have had Matthew Slater on their roster as a special teams ace since 2008, making 10 Pro Bowls as a ST ace. I had to look up his listed position because I don't think I've ever seen him utilized outside of special teams. (He's a WR, btw). The Packers USED to carry players like this as well. Travis Jervey was a terrible RB but he was around for one thing in the mid to late 90's - to blow up kickoff and punt returns, and he made the Pro Bowl for it in 1998. Desmond Howard wasn't much of a WR but he tilted the field for the Packers as a returner. Jarrett Bush gave fans fits as a dime corner but he was kept around for 9 seasons because of his special teams proficiency. And then as an emergency fill in after Woodson got hurt in Super Bowl XLV, Bush made a key INT in the win. Jeff Janis turned out to be useful on the occasional Hail Mary, but he was making the roster for 4 straight years because he was one hell of a gunner. Note; Bush's last season as a Packer was 2014 and Janis's 2017. Who has been their ST ace since? And how bad have they been since? You know the answers. Changing out the ST coordinator annually is only going to make marginal impact. They've floated between ranking in the mid 20's to dead last in recent seasons. Drayton couldn't even get his guys to carry out basic functions so he clearly has to go. But the best special teams coach on the planet is going to struggle to to break out of the bottom third with rotating bottom roster pieces who have no real special teams acumen.

Huh??? He was looking mediocre at best, a one trick deep threat. Before he killed a girl driving drunk the following players would have jumped over him in a re-draft: Jefferson, Lamb, Jeudy, Aiyuk, Higgins, Claypool, and Pittman. It was considered a reach at the time for him to be the first WR off the board and that was cemented in stone prior to his exit from the league.