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I think the projections look about right. I think this is a 83 win team right now. Not going to be enough to win the division or make the playoffs.

How can this article question our Ownership and FO? Don't they know that this is the smartest and bestest Ownership and FO in the MLB? I'm not just talking about now but the entire history of baseball!!!! Surely they have to be at the top of the standings of Ownership/FO not to win anything. Did they not hear when Arnold said they were very busy at the winter meetings? I mean they brought a whiteboard and everything!!! Now, why they would want to blow the ownership budget on a whiteboard is beyond me. I mean just look at CC T-shirt he wore doing interviews. CC and Arnold were like kids in a candy store being with all the other MLB teams. They must be tuckered out after their trip to SD. I wonder if they drove north to see Attanasio in LA. Mark probably wanted to have another conversation where they sit around and challenge each other. Nobody wants to win more than those three, just ask them. FO and ownership said at the start they want a ws....then we want to be the best we can be in 2023...to hey we put out a product. I mean what do people expect? They have the highest number of arbitration players in the major leagues right now, which has caught them by surprised somehow even though probably should of been planning this earlier. They have holes to fill from the holes they created every year with there roster creations. Right now ownership is concentrating on what next baseball cards they need to get and getting Norwich promoted to the EPL. There are only so many hours in the day. I mean we are just the Milwaukee Brewers. Should just be happy we have a MLB team. Afterall, this is the Golden Age of Brewers Baseball. I prefer the other title though: WASTING THE BEST ROTATION IN FRANCHISE HISTORY. Wonder if the next era will be WASTING THE POTENTIAL OF OUTFIELD PROSPECTS.

I'm going to preface this with I know it's still early and there is a lot of moves that may happen to improve the roster. However, these are my thoughts at the moment. I think if Winker is healthy (another player with bad knees and a neck issue is not good) and his head is in the right place, it's an okay move for a DH against RHP only, but the trade does not move the needle. If anything, the roster is slightly weaker especially with all the unknowns that are currently penciled in at starting positions. It seems to me the way this roster is penciling out that they are putting a lot of faith in young prospects, who have yet to play a full MLB season or even get in an AB at the ML level. That's a lot of pressure on these young kids to come up and make an impact. Especially for a team that has playoff aspirations or even "WS" aspirations. However, based on Arnolds comments to Adam Mcalvey after the Kolten trade, that the Brewers are trying to be the "best" they can be in 2023. Seems to me that he has even dropped the pretense of contending for a WS right now. They will not use the word rebuild but at best this is a reset to evaluate what they have in the minors to see if these prospects are legit or not. The current lineup is very thin and to be honest there is no one that you are afraid to face. The plan seems to be to lower payroll with the illusion of contending. I do not believe they will sign anyone to improve the roster. This leads me to believe that Burnes, Woody, and Adames will not be extended (and not part of the "plan") and will be gone by the trading deadline next summer, if not sooner. I don't believe BN report that the Brewers have pulled those three off the trading block. To me that just tells me the Brewers are telling the market that the value in return needs to be higher. I have followed the Brewers for 44 years. I've seen the good and the bad of this franchise and all its re-incarnations, the multiple re-builds, plans, etc. The only thing that does not change is some other team always seems to win the WS. I know I will be slated for this view and ridiculed, but I have lost faith.

Fine points but I also think they you have to add in the mix the question of winning a championship. Most players say that is the reason they play the game. That might not be 100% true for all and might not be the only reason but I do think it is a valid consideration. Now I don't think the Crew is that far off from making the playoffs next season but they have to address the offense. Which they still might and hopefully will. If they don't that would make me pause and think if I was either of them. Happy Thanksgiving.

Fine points but I also think they you have to add in the mix the question of winning a championship. Most players say that is the reason they play the game. That might not be 100% true for all and might not be the only reason but I do think it is a valid consideration. Now I don't think the Crew is that far off from making the playoffs next season but they have to address the offense. Which they still might and hopefully will. If they don't that would make me pause and think if I was either of them. Happy Thanksgiving.

I would still like someone to explain to me if you are Burnes or Woody, why would you sign an extension with Milwaukee? They know in 2 years' time or maybe 1 year that they will either be traded or hit the FA market and will get paid (probably more than the Brewers can or be willing to pay) and be on an organization that probably is better suited (or serious about) winning a WS. Everyone on this board acts like the extension are completely controlled by the Brewers and players have no say in it. If I'm either of them or any impact FA, no way to I even consider Milwaukee even if Mark ponies up the money and blows all other offers off the table. I mean Bob Uecker goes only so far.

I would still like someone to explain to me if you are Burnes or Woody, why would you sign an extension with Milwaukee? They know in 2 years' time or maybe 1 year that they will either be traded or hit the FA market and will get paid (probably more than the Brewers can or be willing to pay) and be on an organization that probably is better suited (or serious about) winning a WS. Everyone on this board acts like the extension are completely controlled by the Brewers and players have no say in it. If I'm either of them or any impact FA, no way to I even consider Milwaukee even if Mark ponies up the money and blows all other offers off the table. I mean Bob Uecker goes only so far.

I know the offseason has just started and I know the Brewers might make some more moves to improve the roster so before anybody jumps down my throat, I acknowledge that. I doubt it but I acknowledge it. But if Perkins and Singleton are on the OD roster and they make no moves to actually improve the roster, then this FRANCHISE is pathetic. The OWNERSHIP group is pathetic. And I am pathetic for following them.

Okay I'll let it go and see what the next several weeks bring.

Okay I'll let it go and see what the next several weeks bring.

I think one thing we have to remind ourselves is that the ability to sign Burnes and/or Woodruff is not completely in the Brewers hands. Even if MA comes up with the money to push the budget out to get a bite of the apple, Burnes and/or Woodruff might not be interested in signing a long term deal in Milwaukee. You already have some players publicly questioning the FO/Ownership group of their true desire to "win" after some of their decisions last season. If some of them are saying this in public god only knows what they are saying in private. In my opinion adding Singleton to the 40 man and implying that he will play a role at the major league level(because they actually believe he will move the needle) is not the way to show to anyone that Brewers are serious about ending 53 year drought of not winning a WS or ending the 40 pennant drought. It might be insurance just in case something that are planning doesn't work out but I doubt it. Friday now to me will be a clear sign on how the rest of this off season will be.

I think one thing we have to remind ourselves is that the ability to sign Burnes and/or Woodruff is not completely in the Brewers hands. Even if MA comes up with the money to push the budget out to get a bite of the apple, Burnes and/or Woodruff might not be interested in signing a long term deal in Milwaukee. You already have some players publicly questioning the FO/Ownership group of their true desire to "win" after some of their decisions last season. If some of them are saying this in public god only knows what they are saying in private. In my opinion adding Singleton to the 40 man and implying that he will play a role at the major league level(because they actually believe he will move the needle) is not the way to show to anyone that Brewers are serious about ending 53 year drought of not winning a WS or ending the 40 pennant drought. It might be insurance just in case something that are planning doesn't work out but I doubt it. Friday now to me will be a clear sign on how the rest of this off season will be.

Just don't look at the K rate.

Just don't look at the K rate.

He is not a power bat. When he does make contact it sometimes goes over the fence. The most HR he has in the majors is 14 and that was 8 years ago. He had 24 against AAA arms last year which is one of his better HR marks but he K way too often. Which I guess is perfect with what the Brewers look for in an offensive player. So yeah, perfect fit.

He is not a power bat. When he does make contact it sometimes goes over the fence. The most HR he has in the majors is 14 and that was 8 years ago. He had 24 against AAA arms last year which is one of his better HR marks but he K way too often. Which I guess is perfect with what the Brewers look for in an offensive player. So yeah, perfect fit.

I know which scares me more and more on how this FO (DS and now MA) builds and understands offensive roster construction. Surely, we can do better than this. What conceivable scenario does any team, with post season and or WS (use that very loosely) aspirations have Singleton on the roster? I cannot believe that they are going to run out the same team and have another reclamation project. I was okay with Singleton on a minor league deal sitting in AAA (he didn't even have a great year in AAA, yeah he walked a bit had a few HR's and a lot of K's) but this addition to the 40 man just makes madder (or is it sadder?) than it should, I guess.

I know which scares me more and more on how this FO (DS and now MA) builds and understands offensive roster construction. Surely, we can do better than this. What conceivable scenario does any team, with post season and or WS (use that very loosely) aspirations have Singleton on the roster? I cannot believe that they are going to run out the same team and have another reclamation project. I was okay with Singleton on a minor league deal sitting in AAA (he didn't even have a great year in AAA, yeah he walked a bit had a few HR's and a lot of K's) but this addition to the 40 man just makes madder (or is it sadder?) than it should, I guess.

There is no way Turner comes to Milwaukee even if MA finds the money which is a big IF.

There is no way Turner comes to Milwaukee even if MA finds the money which is a big IF.

For me is that you didn't need to add him to the 40 man roster. We already have him on a minor league deal. This now becomes a major league deal. The FO added him to protect him from the rule 5 draft. You only do that if you already planning to use Singleton at the major league level. (why you would think that anyone else would pick him up in the rule 5 after not playing in the majors for the last 8 years is beyond me).

For me is that you didn't need to add him to the 40 man roster. We already have him on a minor league deal. This now becomes a major league deal. The FO added him to protect him from the rule 5 draft. You only do that if you already planning to use Singleton at the major league level. (why you would think that anyone else would pick him up in the rule 5 after not playing in the majors for the last 8 years is beyond me).

I think this is all moot now with Singleton on the 40 man roster now and some of MA comments. The Brewers are going to go with Tellez/Singleton at 1B/DH. Seems to me that they are not going to be looking for any outside offensive help at these positions. They feel Singleton K rate will be a great asset to get us to the top spot of leading the NL in strikeouts. Bonus is that Singleton hasn't played in the majors for the last 8 years (perfect fit for the mantra of the franchise...Is Axford still around?) but when you have the opportunity to add that quality of a player you push the budget out and take a bite of the apple. Who needs Abreau or Bell.

I think this is all moot now with Singleton on the 40 man roster now and some of MA comments. The Brewers are going to go with Tellez/Singleton at 1B/DH. Seems to me that they are not going to be looking for any outside offensive help at these positions. They feel Singleton K rate will be a great asset to get us to the top spot of leading the NL in strikeouts. Bonus is that Singleton hasn't played in the majors for the last 8 years (perfect fit for the mantra of the franchise...Is Axford still around?) but when you have the opportunity to add that quality of a player you push the budget out and take a bite of the apple. Who needs Abreau or Bell.

I agree. I just hope this isn't a sign of how they are going to handle this offseason roster construction. Arnolds comments seem to imply that he will have time at the majors platooning with Tellez.