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A guy that can shut down the run game and hit like he is at AA? Developing a catcher like that is at least as difficult as developing a true ace, right? I look at Hiem from the Rangers. He's 28 years old and this year is an outlier, but it looks like what Quero is capable of. I think it makes Corner OFers "less valuable," but if you have a guy like Chourio who may end up in LF only because Mitchell or Wiemer are SO good defensively, I guess it takes away some value, but I don't know. The best part...we don't have to choose! We get both. I think within this thread people have gotten a bit too down on Frelick regarding his rankings. He's just had a bit of a bumpy year for a guy who hit the ground running and has elite bat control, speed, defense. But I would put Chourio as a top 5 prospect, Quero in the top 10-15 and then Misiorowski in the top 25. Frelick with his high floor is still a top `30-40 prospect in my opinion(not factoring in this draft class as I believe the top 5 picks will all be top 30). I really think there's a chance the Brewers best days under Mark A are ahead of them. Get this class into the system, likely deal Burnes, Adames, Woodruff unless he comes back and is 100%, his future is a bit muddier, but I think it'll be an exciting young team. One similar to the team we're currently battling for first place.

I guess you really do NEED the blue font on here. That was so ridiculous, I honestly didn't think about having to state it was sarcasm. I was ALSO being sarcastic about Attanasio being too cheap...while I talked about him expanding the scouting department and building facilities in Latin America to be clear.

When have the Brewers ever chosen the higher upside guy with much more team control over the most expensive player with less team control? Hope we get 2 more years out of Contreras, get a monster AS season with improved defense and you pick up a couple top 100 picks for him as you can slide Quero right in there. I'd personally hold on to Carintini for a while just because he's such a perfect compliment to pretty much any catcher you have. I mean...it's not ideal to have him function as a DH, but that's just the state of the 2023 Brewers. For all that David Stearns has done to sabotage the Brewers in service of the New York Mets, I will forever appreciate how he revamped our Latin American scouting and development(with the help of that SUPER cheap Mark Attanasio investing in it)...expanded the domestic scouting and then started to make a pretty stark change in their drafting ideology with the Turang, Frelick, Black types to add less high K rate players. So good luck with the NYM, love the scouting Dept and please, leave them alone! Pillage the Astros dept.

No, I don't think so...but I've thought for a long time he could easily become the best player from that Biloxi team. In terms of a prospect Chourio's so young and is holding his own in AA at 19. That said...when you say Quero is a year and a half older, sure, but defensive first catchers who are hitting like he is? They're generally a couple years behind. So I'd say what he's doing is at least as impressive as Chourio. I don't think the age makes the difference, I think Chourio's line drive power with his exit velocities and his speed, defense in CF is easier to see becoming an AS whereas there's so many things that can get in Quero's way simply because he's a catcher. I'd put Chourio as a top ~8 prospect, Quero top 15 and Misiorowski as a top ~35 right now. The later only because he's not pitched much and doesn't have a reliable 3rd pitch, but could EASILY jump up to the top pitcher in Baseball by early next year if he can keep landing that 82-86 curve he showed off at the futures game(once IIRC). That 3rd pitch is going to be important for him and when he DID throw it, it was SO filthy. Still find it incredible how many people*(not on here) want to throw him into the Brewers pen right now, or who've already got him penciled in as a multiple TJ guy.

Yeah, it's a VERY nice chunk of change. Not what an NFL rookie would make, but, a Heisman caliber season could push him into ~2M(I've heard he was close to a million, but it feels like these are always exaggerated a little save for the top LSU Gymnast, Arch and the top 5-10 names). He wouldn't be the first guy to stick around when he could leave, but again, he's set up to maximize his earning potential after re-classifying in HS. I'd guess he'd be one of the youngest in the 2024 draft. I'm not sure it's gonna matter. It doesn't seem like the Badgers will be so dependent upon their RB talent.

First thought is Dillon Johnson who was projected to go to Wisconsin. I think this is a program killer for Northwestern. They could have simply followed through on what they'd planned, made the Fitz aware of it and they'd have taken a hit, but that would have been the best way to deal with it...IMO. This is going to crush them. I never understood this type of nonsense, but it's also EXTREMELY common. That's not a justification, but you have two whistleblowers over 17 years and you dump the guy? Doesn't seem like the strongest way to solve the problem, to end it....? Anyway, not our problem. Now lets pillage and plunder the rats from that sinking ship!

Welll, especially if he's going to walk at that type of rate! More walks than strikeouts? Thought we were moving away from the 3TO type players. More contact, speed...but you need some middle of the lineup thump! Like this pick that much better when you combine it with the two prep SS's we took...and appear likely to sign. I don't remember the thread, but a Brewers scout commented and said something along the lines of, "Glad we got him, one of the most impressive kids in his 30 years as a Brewers scout." Seems unlikely a scout says this without a high level of confidence we can sign him.

Yeah, but Frelick went for a bit over slot. They missed on Biggio, Hollan and Holtan, but they got Low, Vire, Avina-who I really like as a longshot. Looking back on that draft, obviously I hope we do better, but if we hit on the top 2 picks and then 2 years from now have a 3rd performing like Carlos Rodriguez, I'll be thrilled. Frelick top ~20 prospect, Black just became a top 100 in one of them. Again, that'll all shuffle after this weekend. I think the top 5 picks will all become top ~40 prospects immediately. I'd even say top 25, but Is that likely? Seems like a bit much and I've never paid much attention to how quickly 1st rounders are placed in the top 100, but this was an extraordinary draft. But hey, maybe we'll take another swing at one of those three who got away?

Allen has played this just about perfectly. Hope he has a big year and can go into the draft at 20 years old. I'm not quite as high on him as I think others are. I like JT, Gordon, and a few others better, but maybe that's partly because Allen is still so young. I'd think he's a Rd2/3 pick at the moment with a chance to move into the late 1st/early 2nd if he can show some pass catching ability in this scheme. He was a safety coming into School and had good ball skills. I suppose it could also mean he's making a LOT of money in NIL, but I'd tell any College RB projected to go in the first or second day to leave.

I'd like Nunn. I think we might have something in Mannion. Not a star or part of some hypothetical future core, but a competent PG who can create a little bit. Watching Jackson in the Summer League, I see the appeal. The Draymond Green comps as a passer make total sense. He just sees the plays ahead of time. One play that stands out, they swung the ball to him, Tako was just getting inside position and it was almost a touch pass by Jackson. Hit his hands and it almost looked like he was setting the ball in Volleyball. Actually made Tako Fall look good!

Yeah, some of these picks, they're REALLY trying to get away from the high strikeout guys! Saw a few people complaining on Twitter about Wilken strikeout rate...which made me scratch my head a bit. I'll take a ~17% K rate for 31 bombs.

I really can't think of a year we said that other than last year. Our 1st round picks have...generally been guys who were pretty firmly entrenched as 1st rounders or even guys who were projected higher and had a poor spring such as Turang. Can you think of another player we took that was speculted to be below slot? I guess Small could have fit that mold. We went a little under on Small...a LITTLE over IIRC on Kelly and then Dillard, Holt, Hamilton I believe were all signed over slot. This draft is a bit unique. The Brewers aren't getting much love on the MLB network...(not sure how I will emotionally cope with that) but there is still a whole lot of talent out there.

Gotta be signability.

Yeah, I'm just at a loss for words on that one. That's objectively ridiculous. You had to go back and name three of the best hitters of the last 30 years. Again, we simply need him to be an improvement. We do NOT need Manny Ramirez from Keston Hiura. Geez...ya wonder why it's impossible to please people sometimes!🤣

Seriously? He would have to play at the level of one of the best RHed hitters of all time, one of the best DH's of all time or the Brewers best power hitter ever to be valuable? That's...crazy. He'd simply have to be better than what we have now to be "valuable." We don't need a HOFer or HOF caliber bat from Hiura.

I think this is a big part of it. Yes, I get he was already DFA'ed, but if you're going to get rid of Winker, a proven hitter(who has been awful) and go with Hiura, it's not something you can undo. You're stuck there. Maybe a convenient DFA for Winker is good as well, see if Hiura's adjustments lead to a different look at the plate. Not that you'd need to decide based on 10 days of stats, but you can see if he looks better. I still think Winker is going to be a good hitter again, but I thought the ASB was enough time. I guess maybe we can afford a bit more with Yelich and Adames getting going, but there's just no reason to not bring up Hiura at this point. If you were willing to let him go for nothing...it's certainly worth a shot to see if you can get him back to anything close to what he'd been. We waited 3 years for Yelich to get going again...maybe the same will be true with Keston.

Is it on today? I see it's scheduled for the MLB network tomorrow.

Garver would be great...but hard to see the Rangers trading away depth given how well they're playing this year. The Red Sox have to be looking to trade Turner, right? He's got a player option for next year and is gonna get nearly 7M if he exercises it(which he presumably will as he's still hitting and would almost certainly get more than 6M in FA). He shouldn't cost much in terms of prospects. And Boston has 4 starting pitchers on the IL right now with Sale back on the 60 day, has started 22 games in 4 years, so I doubt they'll be banking on much of anything from him with the "chance to come back in August" diagnosis. In fact, we should probably look to get a reliever back with Turner if we give up even a...IDK, Jarvis type prospect. Boston seems like a team that'll likely look to be spending a lot of money this off-season, so clearing whatever cash they can this year, plus a few team options, that's a deal that should be made.

This IS the same team that moved Travis Shaw to 2B. It's a bit hard to envision them moving Yelich just as he's hitting the ball as well as he has since 2018, but it could solve a few issues. Tyler Black is a guy I'd at least consider if we can't find another in-house solution, but I've yet to see him in the lineup at 1B in Biloxi(could have missed it). LOL...I'm shocked we didn't send Quero, Chourio, and Frelick out last year for JD Davis...what with Stearns being a double agent! The serious part, I wouldn't consider Chourio for Alonso. I'm not trading him for any player with a year and a half of service time. Same goes for Misiorowski, Frelick or Quero. And it'd have to be real significant upgrade(Someone like Alonso that we'd make a QO to) to trade that next group, Turang, Wiemer, Black, Lara or Gasser. I wonder what type of trade value Mitchell would have? He's the OFer I have the least faith in. Being his non-throwing shoulder that's injured...maybe a team not contending wouldn't mind waiting until '24 to get him on the field.

Fair enough, but at least with Weeks you got good offensive production. He may not have reached the lofty 40/40 potential I remember a BA write-up suggesting he was capable of, but his "disappointing" years he was at least getting on base and never looked as lost as Hiura did just getting beat by those Fastballs. I'd be thrilled if 26 year old Hiura produced like Weeks did from 26-29 for the Brewers...even if it wasn't quite Sheffield without the attitude.

I'm not sure that means people don't appreciate how good he's been defensively, likely just curious what they'd do with the roster with a guy who's had an outstanding year in AAA vs LHPing vs a who's struggling to stay above .200...even though I believe he's a net positive, I can see where that's coming from.

Who are we talking about? Hiura in AAA, Winker? He's seemed to have just BRUTAL luck this year. I could see two of the balls he hit being 112. The LD to RF. I think the 10 days off for Tellez is going to be good for him. I think if Winker had been a Brewer for a while, this fanbase would be much more confident in his ability to get it going(though he may just have broken down). Hiura has done everything you possibly can to get another shot. Rowdy was never prime Pujols, but he's been a solid hitter ever year of his career. Sooner or later, they'll have to give up on at least one of them and inevitably watch a Florida team claim/sign them after clearing and then that player will hit well the rest of the year.

Yeah, it's all good for me now. I should have just sent a direct message, just curious if anyone had a quick solve or a workaround. Can't clear my cache. I'd lose about 90 passwords to streaming devices and other various online services I use that I can't be bothered to write down!

Badgers get another 4 star. #1 recruit from Minnesota! https://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2023/7/4/23783870/breaking-wisconsin-badgers-land-four-star-ol-emerson-mandell-luke-fickell-phil-longo-mike-tressel

Surely you mean Middleton and Lopez' last run with Giannis(and even Jrue), right? In 2 years, the Bucks will have a ton of cap room and who knows what they'll have in Livingston, Marjon, Jackson and whomever they take in the 1st next year. The Cap holds will be small and could easily be renounced outside their top players. They'll have Giannis at ~51, Marjon at 4.5, Jackson and Livingston at 2M each. All that cap space, the MLE that could be ~15M a year, Bi--Annual. And then Portis at ~13, Middleton at 36, Connaughton at ~9 Player options and those are valuable in and of themselves if they're looking to trade to acquire players as they're all expiring. Add another young 1st round pick next year, and they'll have a massive amount of roster flexibility in 2 years. And remember, Bradley Beal was basically a salary dump. Who knows what players will be salary dumbs by that point wile also being The next 2 years(or 3)....could well be the end of the Giannis era. He'll also be 30 years old with what should be a lot of good basketball left in him. A defensive first player like Jackson who's an outstanding passer, a long wing like Majon who can defend and hopefully score, a total X-Factor like Livingston who has star potential(and also the potential to be out of the league by then)...it may be a very appealing place for players requesting trades or who are FAs. Maybe Brandon Ingram and Jamal Murray find that appealing or Lauri Markkanen, Myles Turner, OG Anunoby and Derrick White. Maybe it'll be players who break out in the next 2 years. Maybe it'll be one of a dozen veterans who want or are demanding trades and we actually have assets to acquire them. Trade flexibility, ample salary cap space, all the other avenues to add players available to them, draft picks available. Giannis is an appealing player to play with and he'd still be right in his prime. But I'll just enjoy the next two years and I'm certainly not worried about this being "Last run" with a guy who's never given any indication he want to leave Milwaukee.