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I remember talking about extending him just last year! 8/96 +2 TOs was my suggestion. It was understandably met with some... resistance. At least one said we should only pay him as a reliever. I wonder what it'd take to get it done now? Likely much more than it's worth. 6/120+2 TOs at 35 would be my guess. Just enjoy the next 5... hopefully healthy years and root for a a couple more years of big bonuses!

I'm following along just fine... though I missed where you said it was odd he didn't get more of a chance. I was responding to this part; He really did not look terrible though. He was up 3 times for about 10 days in 2024 at 23 years old and got inconsistent PAs. At no point has he ever gotten anything resembling a chance, nor has he gotten consistent playing time. Not in '23. But if we're saying he DID in '23, then we'd have to look at '26, this past year, the longest period he's been up. He hit .333/.357/.481. That was ~25% of his PAs. So framing it as 'he got his opportunity and he failed,' which is paraphrasing, but I think an accurate representation of what you said... feels a bit lacking. If Bauers is back, he's likely gone. If he's not, I think he deserves the first look at 1B. If he's back, obviously he has a much more narrow avenue to playing time... but I would like to see him given an actual shot.

It's actually pretty funny how closely his career has tracked Bauers himself to this point. You may be right, I think he's got a very narrow window to another opportunity with the Brewers, as I've said, it'd be if Bauers turns down the QO, you may give him the first shot to be in a platoon role. I don't think they are going to go out and spend much on a LHed 1B option otherwise and I don't know if Fischer can do the job. Burke... he's gotta slim down a bit. He's going to get too big. I just think he'll prove to be a good offensive player. I think it's pretty obvious he won't hit for Bauers type of power, but I could see a nice career as a utility player.

He got 58 PAs spread across the 2024 season. He was up for less than 10 days 3 times spread across the season. How about the 47 PAs he subsequently got where he hit .314/.415/.457 872 OPS. I don't find that particularly useful, but if we're going to say he got his chance in '24... seems odd we're ignoring '25 and '26. He's a LHed 1B/corner OFer. He may get his chance in Milwaukee if Bauers turns down the QO.

When? He's come up, gotten sporadic playing time and he's had good at bats and played well... albeit in VERY small sample sizes... so I wouldn't use those are a ringing endorsement, but I don't see how you can say he's had his opportunities and didn't succeed with them.

They've shown that because they've had Bauers and Black has had options. Black has also shown evidence he's a good, professional hitter and can give you... some of what Bauers does. He's also all of 26-years-old. He's probably limited to 1B, LF, RF... he could play CF, but given our options... he won't. "Wasting a 40 man spot," is extremely harsh when you see Akil Baddoo on the 40 man this year or Brandon Lockridge.

2018 and 2019 were historically great seasons for the Brewers, but... I feel like Yelich and his impact is more about the era than about his performance... if that makes sense. He's been here or 9 years, we've been to the playoffs 8 of them. We won a WS. His speech is cited as a seminal moment. He won't be a Yount, Molitor, but he'll have a different legacy. A winner. I'd say it'd be comparable to Braun if... not for scandal. Hell, he may end up being "the Captain" on team that ends up with multiple titles! Even in the more likely case that he does not in his final two years, he's a Brewers legend. Most importantly, he's a WORLD SERIES WINNER... that's enough for me!

Probably not... but Bauers for one more year and with him NOT looking like a guy who just had good luck, great swing decisions, hard hit... I think they'd just like to see him back for a year, not for 4.

I both agree with this post... and then find it obnoxious. Are we not better than the "glazing" nonsense? That's... Twitter hyperbole and it's pretty low-brow and pretty vulgar. I don't know who has a .776 OPS. I went through and looked, I figured maybe Contreras. Not him. Yelich... I think he's respected because of his past. Chourio or Pratt were the two closest(though neither matched perfectly)... but you're talking about two elite defensive players who also didn't get platooned. They didn't get ALMOST exclusively the preferably matchups. They didn't just not let Vaughn hit vs righties. They played Ortiz and Vaughn in a very similar way. Not having them face guys who threw a lot of sweepers and sliders and letting them face pitchers who matched their strengths. 4 steamers, changeups, even curveballs, up and down vs East and West style pitches. So I'm not sure who you're talking about. If we're comparing a RHHed hitter who crushes lefties to the tune of a ~.980 OPS and won a Gold Glove(again, IF you're talking about Chourio) or if it's someone who plays for another team, but... it's an Apples to Oranges comparison. The way people worry about Vaughn though! The Brewers will figure this out. I'd probably prefer we keep Bauers for a year, use Adams to be the other half of the platoon and then lose Bauers and go with Black as the other half of a Vaughn platoon. But I do think Vaughn has a LOT of ability, could get better and could be an .800 OPS as a full time starter in which the Brewers just let him play vs whoever is on the mound with only the occasional day off vs a tough righty.

No. I would not be surprised. It also projected that we'd be an ~81 win team. So... I'm kinda out on the projections. Vaughn has 585 PAs as a Brewer at this point. He's put up actual numbers, not projections. .306/.384/.466 and an 849 OPS and a 135 OPS+. SOME of that is no question the platoon. But the projection against whatever player B player you're talking about... it's of little consequence to me. I don't think they'll keep Bauers at 23M and then Vaughn at 8M. I was INCREDIBLY annoyed at the bemoaning Vaughn's lack of PHing during an 11-2 run. I also think he's a good hitter and that the start of his career was destroyed by the White Sox who took the #3 pick, rushed him to the big leagues, put him in LF and then dumped him. He's hit as a Brewer and we can't spend 31M on Bauers and Vaughn. Both things can be true. Luke Adams is fine as a platoon player to start the year.

The thing is... Bauer didn't really have a year that'd suggest he got lucky. So, if he comes back for one year, I think that's a good outcome for the Brewers. I'll be good either way, but I think ~3/60M is a bit riskier than 1/23, but I honestly wouldn't be bothered by either.

I don't think it's changing to the detriment of the Brewers. I guess it's possible they'll make it a bit tougher to do some of the things we've done. The Competitive Balance picks could potentially go, the IFA draft where we're basically signing like #18, 25, 30," most years while the top franchises are MORE inclined to sign 1 or 2 top names, but I think that's still benefitted us with our larger scouting department. If there's more revenue sharing... I think you'll just see the Brewers make more aggressive, but still smart decisions in signing players. Made is an example, Luis Pena may well be another one. Bishop Letson, or... Josh Adamczewski, who knows. I'm seeing a lot of Contreras or Bauers extensions... I think maybe we try with Bauers, 3/45? I would actually feel find about that. I'd prefer Black hit right handed in that scenario. I still believe Black can be a solid MLB hitter, not a guy who'll slug, but, good OBP... so I think we could get by. The one thing about Bauers and Contreras, Bauers seems a bit more likely to continue to hit the next 2-3 years if healthy. Contreras, I love the guy. He's Milwaukee Royalty, he'll be Milwaukee Royalty... but I've seen people suggest 5-6 years. He takes over Yelich's contract sorta. Yeah, you can get by with that. I think it's a bad idea. 33-year-old Contreras could be a better hitter than 28-year-old Contreras... but it'd likely be at DH vs Catcher. I honestly think that's the worst thing we could do if we were to see an influx of cash that is 50M more a year or... 100M more(it wouldn't be that high until they could collectively bargain TV revenues)... whatever, keep spending on young talent. I thought the Pratt contract was cool. I would not have picked him to extend though. He wasn't on my list of top 4-5 guys. I thought he'd be our defensive SS, nice player, 3-4 WAR because a good defender who is just a competent, ~90 WRC+ is usually worth that at SS. The Pratt I saw looks like he's going to be more than a 90 WRC+ type hitter... Point is, we're run better. If we get more revenue sharing, which I think is the one nearly inevitable outcome, we'll be run better with more money. If service time gets knocked down, that would suck, but I don't think it will. I think this Brewers team is... kinda like the 2010 Packers. They won it a bit before most really thought they would be completely ready... I think they'll have more chances... we just need to make sure we don't have a Brandon Bostick on the team!

I think it's more likely to stay at 6 years but with some exceptions. You hit free agency at 29 or 30 either way. That's... a proposal. I'd also really change the service time for the 7th year. It's really 7 years at his point. What is it, 172 out of 187 days. So you can be on a roster 171 days as a rookie... doesn't count. I just hope they don't change it retroactively! Turang would be gone in 2 years(among several others... and I'm not sure we could justify stashing him in AAA a this point!).

Well... that proposed deal IS a record breaking deal in AAV. If you're talking about Mauers 8 year 184M deal... I think that's a pipe dream. He's not getting that. I actually think the 4 year 100M extension, a record in AAV... would probably get it done. I don't think I'D offer that, but... sure.

LOL we won the World Series. I FEEL like we were winning it without Dustin May or JoJo Romero.... Now, Romero was REALLY good and I actually like May. I'd bring May back if starting pitching didn't almost always cost such a stupid amount of money. I think the Brewers could help him get that sinker back. I STILL think it was a bad trade. It was literally the last thing I said when we closed the Jose Soriano trade thread, "as long as they don't trade a guy like Frias for a rental...." You trade an 18-year-old with 60-power and very-very good plate discipline... you should ensure he's valued appropriately. I don't think May and Romero accomplish that. Ragsdale, that one I'm less interested in. I'm also having a REALLY hard time caring about anything right now... because... we won the World Series. So... whatever!

Keith Law called Griffin the most exciting prospect since Trout. I don't know who called him the BEST. But I think people forget how prospects were actually ranked back then. In 2012, MLB Pipeline had Matt Moore #1, Bryce Harper #2 and Trout #3. Baseball America had Harper #1, Moore #2 and Trout #3. Jurickson Profar subsequently became the #1 overall prospect in 2013. Griffin is an exceptional talent... but McGonigle also signed in the same ballpark. It's not comparing Griffin to Made... which is a difficult comp anyway because But Made is the highest-ranked prospects in baseball, but a year younger, and the argument for extending him isn't dependent on whether he's better than Griffin or Chourio... or frankly Wander Franco and Bobby Witt Jr(the two prospects who I'd immediately reach for who were better prospects going back the last 15 years or so... and ONLY addressing their baseball ability). It's about locking up a potential franchise player before he establishes his major-league value. If Milwaukee believes Made has that kind of ceiling, waiting until he proves it means... he's gone. If he's actually got Ronald Acuna Jr type upside as a switch hitter... who plays 3B/SS, we're going from 150M RANGE to buy out ~4 years+ a TO or two to one that's likely out of our budget. And I don't buy the idea that having generational wealth somehow eliminates a player's motivation. I'd rather have the exceptional talent under team control at a favorable price than gamble on financial insecurity making him play harder. If you're driven enough to be one of the best at what you do in the world... then just putting off the payment doesn't seem like it's going to spur growth.

LOL... Brice Turang is 26. Lets not age guys too quickly. I agree, you prioritize Made above all else, but... 26 is a pretty good age to sign a guy for maybe 6 years. It's also exactly the age you WOULDN'T want to sign an extension, so probably not going to happen... but I think Turang will be a very productive player the rest of his years here and I'd gamble on that production extending 3-4 years after that. I don't KNOW that, but it's my belief based on just how good he is as a switch hitting SS. He's got 60 grade tools across the board. I think it's a 55 field, 65 hit for BA, but generally it's about 60 for all of them. We absolutely could let him sit... and if he doesn't sign, I am not calling him up next year. He can play a year in AAA and that's NOT to be punitive, but I want the best version of Jesus Made I can get. I'd MUCH rather let him spend a little more time in AA, then AAA for a year--IF he is not signed, and then call him up in '28 and get his age 26 season vs calling him up next year and getting that age 19 season instead. But I'd have no problems about putting 150 on the table.

Yeah... BUT, on the bright side, if MLB is giving up a year of service time, revenue will be shared substantially more and there will be some type of cap and floor. I wonder if that's why Pratt and Lara were done this year? Pratt looks SO good right now. Not just because of his games, his swing is so nice. He covers the outside but can pull his hands in and turnon it...

IF YOU CAN... go to the Stadium and pick up some Gear! Most can't or it doesn't fit into their schedule, but the Brewers keep substantially more money(I think it's everything but the licensing fee whereas online you only get 15% and you share the rest with everyone else). I went down and bought a new Vehicle... oh, sorry, I bought my Son and Nephew Jersey's, myself a World Series Sweat and a nice Jacket... and it was 600 bucks. But... sometimes it's just worth paying stupid prices for memories.

Nope! Not at all. I think it's funny! He also probably picked the ONE team that would not sign Bauers under almost any circumstance beyond trading Rice and Stanton, but... I see why it's News, the WS Manager, 3X manager of the year said the Yankees play for themselves... and you have to write about something, but you're absolutely right. Offended NY? Oh well! Should have beaten the Rays!

I agree, but for very different reasons. There have been rumors that they're going to change the service time, maybe make it 5 years in exchange for ...whatever. I think if you're the Brewers, you sign him ASAP. I think Jesus Made is the one who is going to want to wait.

LOL... I mean, it's not at ALL hard to see why Yankees fans would be upset! It's funny as hell and I don't care, but... He's saying the Yankees are a selfish team playing for their own contracts or money or... whatever! I don't think Murph cares, but it was clearly a shot at the Yankees and... so what! We're the Brewers, we don't care what the big market think anymore! By the time Jesus Makes another Jesus Made(so Jesus Made Jr)... the way I figure it, we're going to be closing in on their World Series total!

Yeah... but... in 5-6 years, the names "Chourio, Misiorowski, Pratt, Uribe, Henderson, Turang," they may carry a bit more weight!

Well... I don't know him beyond a player either.... AND I honestly wasn't trying to be... short or dismissive or rude, I'm asking if you're referencing anything. But I'm just... struggling to see how the BEST prospect we've ever developed would not make the team better. Even if he's Jeff Kent or whoever, I'm taking him on my team. He's also a kid right now, so lets say there was something you'd heard negatively, I'd have enough faith in the franchise and leadership getting him right. I'm trying to figure out exactly what we're looking for. If "hard worker" is enough... he seems like he's that, but I don't even know that. I know he plays hard. Does he spend as much time taking GBs or working on his swing? Can't say.

Just to expand on that; Again, remember, Made is over 2 years younger at the same stage and plays in the tougher hitters league. Statistic José Ramírez (2013 - AA) Jesús Made (2026 - AA) Games Played 113 122 At Bats (AB) 482 491 Batting Average (AVG) .272 .271 On-Base Percentage (OBP) .325 .344 Slugging Percentage (SLG) .349 .430 OPS .674 .774 Counting Stats & Run Production Statistic José Ramírez (2013 - AA) Jesús Made (2026 - AA) Runs Scored (R) 78 87 Hits (H) 131 133 Runs Batted In (RBI) 38 91 Power & Extra-Base Output Statistic José Ramírez (2013 - AA) Jesús Made (2026 - AA) Doubles (2B) 16 24 Triples (3B) 6 6 Home Runs (HR) 3 14 Total Bases (TB) 168 211 Isolated Power (ISO) .077 .159 Baserunning & Efficiency Statistic José Ramírez (2013 - AA) Jesús Made (2026 - AA) Stolen Bases (SB) 38 37 Caught Stealing (CS) 16 14 Stolen Base % 70.3% 72.5%