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Brewers catch a break there. It´s nice to have a 2-0 deficit completely erased. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif -
Here is the rule I was refering to: (e) If a game is called before it has become a regulation game, the umpire shall declare it "No Game." Earlier it explained that a regulation game is one that has gone on for a minimum of 4.5 innings.
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I'm pretty sure that unless you get to five innings, the game is started over from square one with a 0-0 game. The only time it is continued is if it is tied following 5 innings of play.
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Just because he might have more money than you and I, doesn´t mean that he should be forced to "pony up" a ton of stuff for a ball that is very special to him, especially when ponying up means giving away another player´s game used stuff. It isn´t like he didn´t offer Happy anything for the ball. By all accounts he was offering a number of signed items. He wasn´t being overally stingy, or just expecting the fan to give it back to him for nothing. Most human beings would have recognized the importance of the situation to the Marlins´player and not used that situation to swindle as much stuff out of him as possible. It´s called courtesy, it´s called kindness, it´s called empathy. All important aspects of how humans ought to treat one another. And those where not displayed by Happy in this situation. Once again, he had every right to ask what he did for the ball, but in doing so, he now has to accept the consequences of his actions (and how that shapes how people view him). And that´s fair. As far as the ball thing is concerned, people could still keep the majority of balls hit into the stands, but were there to be one of special significance, ML could claim that ball (and probably have some universal gift (non-negotiable) to any such fan who would catch said ball).
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It´s called showing some humanity, thinking about others rather than solely thinking about "what´s in it for me". We all recognize that it´s Youngster´s passion to collect baseballs, and that´s fine. But he has to keep that passion in perspective. That ball has very deep sentimental value for the player since it was his first HR (just think of all of the years in the minor leagues working hard to reach that very defining moment). To ransom the ball, especially for articles that don´t belong to this young rookie, to drive a hard bargain for it is cruel, it´s losing perspective of the other´s point of view and solely looking to "get as much as I can" out of the situation. That´s greedy. He has every right to be greedy, since he caught the ball. But when he does act in a greedy, selfish way, people are going to recognize it as such and criticize him as such. That´s fair. And by all accounts that wasn´t the first thing the Marlin´s player/organization said to him. The Marlins´ player was clearly frustrated that the ball he had hit for his first ever homerun was being held at ransom by a fan who was acting selfish and greedy (and who by all accounts justified this selfishness and greed by pointing to his profession). Those words sound like someone who is exasperated. I agree with those on the board, that they should change the rules in ML baseball and make the balls ML property, even when they are hit out of the park. That would solve a lot of the problems that come from this type of thing.
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I don´t think anyone doubts that collecting a ball is meaningful to him. But what does get people upset is that he does not seem to keep his hobby in perspective to the bigger picture. Here you have a guy who just hit his first ML homerun, a lifetime dream fulfilled, and you have a fan who refuses to give you the ball unless you give in to his demands, and really takes advantage of the situation. Something like a ML first HR is a tremendous achievement, and Happy should recognize the importance of the situation to the player and be gracious, rather than trying to get as much as he can out of the situation (aka greed). When blind love of hobby loses perspective and causes a loss of treating others with respect and courtesy, I´d say that the person with the hobby has lost perspective and gone overboard. Unfortunately, this isn´t the first time this has been brought up, where the passion for the hobby went beyond acting graciously and humanely. The fact that this sounds so much like the Jenkins situation, just shows that this losing perspective of the hobby has become a pattern, and he hasn´t learned from his past loss of perspective. For that he will be looked upon in a negative way by much of the fanbase, and the criticism is probably to some extent deserved.
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What a complete disgrace. Greed at it´s finest.
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Billy says, "Gamel who?"
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The way I understand it, Super Two is not determined until after two years of service time. In order to qualify as a Super Two, you need to be on the roster for at least 86 games in that SECOND year (so for Gamel, we are talking about 2011). If he is in the top 17% of TOTAL service time, and has been on the active roster for 86 days in 2011. Then Gamel would be eligible under Super Two status entering the year 2012 (rather than starting arbitration in 2013 like normal). The 86 day rule seems to be put in place so that someone who is constantly bouncing back and forth between the minors doesn´t end up as a Super Two.
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Except having Gamel playing third most days would mean that Hall would be coming off of the bench.
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Oops, my bad, only ONE error in the past three weeks. The point still stands though.
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The Crew, Gamel does not make Braun look like a gold glover. Gamel hasn´t even had an error in about three weeks and he has much better range than Braun. By all accounts he is a much better 3b than Braun.
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Braun will get in no matter what. Come on, this would be awesome!
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Thought this was an interesting topic to bring up. A group at Sons of Sam Horn are making a push across the interweb to try to vote Milledge into the All Star game. Milledge is currently playing on the National´s AAA team, but for some reason was put onto the digital ballot found at MLB.com. This sounds like a good deal of fun. Anyone else interested in showing just what a mockery the All Star game voting system is? Link to article.
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Read a book. Find a favorite fiction writer and read everything he´s written.
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The Mat Gamel watch
strawbossisevil replied to Never Outhustled's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
So pointing to his streak of 10 straight games without an error as just a pause between horrible streaks is fair to Gamel? Giving Gamel no credit whatsoever for the good he´s done in the last two weeks? Just waiving it off with his hand as a momentary break from Gamel´s horrible abilities at playing 3b? How is any of that fair to Gamel, who has done very very well these past two weeks defensively. Should he get no credit for doing so and just be dismissed? The point is, after his first dozen games or so, people were calling him out for having an error every other game. Now that he has put 10 games without an error together, what do you hear? Crickets. No one commenting that it is encouraging that he has done so well the past few weeks. The people who were calling him out earlier have either gone silent or are still chirping on about the first couple weeks that they act like these past two weeks never even happened. I guarantee you though, the next error that he makes and the complaining from such posters (like Crew07) will continue just like before. I´m beginning to think that Crew07 wants Gamel to fail at 3b because he takes more pleasure in being "right" than what is best for the Brewers. -
Ethical Question: Advancing on Injury
strawbossisevil replied to nsimps's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
The other team kicks the ball out of bounds because they expect it back when when play resumes. If that didn't happen I highly doubt they would give up the possession of the ball. I do agree with you that soccer is pretty sweet and I, for one, enjoy watching the premier leagues of Europe... MLS? Not so much, though if we had a team in Wisconsin I'd follow that too (but I suppose this is for a different thread). Back on topic: If it is unethical to advance on an injury, wouldn't it also be unethical for a fielder to tag out an injured baserunner? It is my opinion that you advance as far as you can, just like you tag the guy out if he tears his ACL rounding third. It does suck but it is part of the game. Well, of course they expect to get it back. The point is, however, that the team doesn´t try to take advantage of the player being injured, seeing it as their opportunity to quick score while the other team is a man down. I guess I don´t see baseball as following that type of sportsmanship though. Sportsmanship in America is dead. -
The Mat Gamel watch
strawbossisevil replied to Never Outhustled's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
Oh, I see how it is. Just disregard statistical improvement because it doesn´t fit with your preconceived notions. It couldn´t possibly be that Gamel has settled down and improved defensively after an initial bad start. You couldn´t possibly admit that Gamel has played very well defensively as of late, you have to cut him down. What a ridiculous post. -
Ethical Question: Advancing on Injury
strawbossisevil replied to nsimps's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Wow, that´s a pretty low blow for those of us that actually enjoy soccer. Yes, occasionally injuries are faked to try to get a call, but it is a lot more frequent where a player gets kicked in the shin or ankle. In the moment that that happens that could bring anyone to their knees in pain, even if it is something they are later able to walk off. Hardly a "fake injury". Just because you don´t like a sport, doesn´t mean you have to belittle it. -
Ethical Question: Advancing on Injury
strawbossisevil replied to nsimps's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
It isn´t the only sport. In soccer, at least in professional soccer, if someone goes down with an injury the other team kicks the ball out of play so that the injured player can get medical attention. -
The Mat Gamel watch
strawbossisevil replied to Never Outhustled's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
Hoping not to jinx the guy here, but with all this talk about how poor Gamel is on defense, he hasn´t had an error since April 23. He´s gone 10 games without one. No doubt he started out the year poorly (7 errors in 14 games, or something like that), but since then he´s shown some major improvement. -
Ender, I don´t see the traditionalists letting the DH into the NL. I think the MLB likes the fact that it has two somewhat different products to offer. I will admit though that having the DH does give the AL teams a slight advantage in head to head games. I do prefer the strategy of the NL though over the AL, but that´s just me.
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Any chance that Brett Lawrie gets moved up a level at the break?
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Theriot must be roiding, he hit another HR tonight. Ridiculous.
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It´s not that the scouts don´t think that Gamel can be a 3b, it´s that they recognize the large gap between his offense and his defense (something which we have all noticed). Scouts have said that Gamel has the instincts to play 3b, but say that he struggles with his footwork, something that is correctable (at least to a certain extent) with time. But scouts, like many on this site, see his bat as ready to play in the bigs, and think he would be better suited to a different position for that reason, rather than waiting for him to improve on the defensive side. And clearly the Brewer´s scouts think Gamel is capable of playing 3b, or he would have been moved already. And we´ll have to agree to disagree on Green´s bat. I don´t think he´ll amount to be anything but either a 2nd baseman or a reserve infielder. Green = a slightly better Rottino in my mind.
