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Parra Replaces Bush in Rotation Sunday; Bush "not pleased"
naivin replied to Funketown's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
What timing... Not picking on Bush Miami - We just had our briefing with manager Ken Macha and he made it clear that he is not signaling out Dave Bush among his starting pitchers by replacing him Sunday with Manny Parra. "We're not picking on Bush," said Macha. "We're not saying he's out of the rotation. He'll be in the bullpen a couple of dyas. We'll see how things fit after Sunday. We've got the Cubs series next. It's highly likely he'll be back in there in the Cubs series." Macha said it was more to do with pitching lefties against the Cardinals, who have not fared well against them despite all of their right-handed pop. And Macha said he also wanted to give Parra another chance after he made only two starts before being removed from the rotation in favor of Chris Capuano. "We've not given Manny a fair shake," said Macha. "We asked him to come in relief in Minnesota when he was supposed to start the next day. Manny has had a couple of good games against the Cardinals. We're trying to get him in an advantageous position. "We're going to have a pow-wow when we get home to see what we're doing. We've had people in and out (of the rotation), in and out. We'll see if we can get our best guys lined up. "We have to see how these guys perform. It's much like the lineup. It makes itself out. We have the second-highest ERA (5.34) in the National League. If you want to pitch, step up." -
How are they worse off today than they were 48 hours ago when they had two more career minor leaguers on the roster?
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Parra Replaces Bush in Rotation Sunday; Bush "not pleased"
naivin replied to Funketown's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
But the complaint was that there is no long-term plan...seems to me these are short-term (2010) issues, as most of those guys will be gone in the next year+. I don't claim to know what the long-term strategy is, but I don't think anyone expected any of those guys to be around beyond 2010 or 2011, which to me seems to indicates they are thinking long-term, and using those pieces to get through the next season or two. Their minor league system is not exactly flush with pitching options they could bring up to take their lumps. -
How about anything to suggest that one has anything to do with the other? Thanks for admitting there is nothing like that though. It should be pretty clear that neither Heether nor Stern factored into the Brewers future any more than Jeff Suppan does. My problem is with people lamenting the loss of players that were never going to matter to the Brewers, being the result of some sort of grand scheme by Doug Melvin to hang onto Jeff Suppan, when there is frankly nothing to indicate that is the case.
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Parra Replaces Bush in Rotation Sunday; Bush "not pleased"
naivin replied to Funketown's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Well, let's see in the first two months of the season they have seen their closer completely blow up, DL stints by their starting C, CFer, 4th and 5th OFer, 3/4 starter, and primary set up man. Do they have a choice but to fly by the seat of their pants at this point? -
I'll ask again, what specific evidence or indication is there that Heether (and Stern) was waived because DM wants to keep Jeff Suppan on the roster? Other than the fact that two career AAA players are no longer oart of the organization, there is nothing to suggest that one has anything to do with the other.
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Either way. This is not something I am going to be too upset about...where was he ever going to play in Milwaukee. Also, as with Stern, it is rather ridiculous to jump to the conclusion that these guys are being waived because someone wants to keep Jeff Suppan on the roster. There is nothing to suggest that is the motivation.
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Not seeing the tweet or any link, possible he meant to say Adam Stern?
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By all accounts, Trevor believes his problems are correctable. It seems that Brewer coaching staff agrees with this as well. Pretty sure he isn't going to retire (and walk away from a good chunk of change) if he thinks he just need to work through some difficulties to be able to pitch effectively again.
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Agreed. Currently, KC, CLE, SEA, PIT, and ARI have records that are the same or within a game or two of the Brewers. Raise your hand if you think any of those teams are capable of competing for anything this year. The sooner the Brewers acknowledge they have more in common with those teams then they do the Cardinals, Phillies, Dodegers, etc., the better off they are going to be, the more they can get in return for the players they trade away (by doing so sooner), and the better job they can do preparing for next season and beyond.
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As it sits at the moment, that is a stat line, most MLB players would love to have, and as you said, he is having a bad year thus far. Its also meaningless, as you are looking at 2 months of a 4+ year career (unless you believe Casey McGehee should be given a 9 figure contract). I think its safe to assume, that he will end the year with 30+ HR, 100+ RBI, and an OPS of .900+. Is he worth that big contract? Yes, he is as worth it as anyone else. The guy has HoF talent. That said, I do not really want to see the Brewers signing him to such a contract. They are simply not the right team to do so.
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That would be the idea, and I suspect it wouldn't take too much to do so. I'm not condoning the idea necessarily, I'm just saying it is entirely possible that there's more to Suppan's continued presence on the roster than someone simply not wanting to let him go.
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Aye, that's the rub. Not that fans and/or popular opinion should be driving roster management decisions, but the organization (whoever's behind this) seems resolute about having Jeff on the roster. That's pure speculation though. Appearances seem to indicate they are hell bent on keeping him around, because they want to keep him around. If he is being kept around as a part of future player movement, however minor or significant it may be, doing so may be logical. If they are serious about Willis for instance, I assume Suppan would have to be part of any such deal for the Brewers to even consider it. It doesn't necessarily have to make sense today, if it becomes clear why they did it later (for the record, if it doesn't, and they are keeping him for the sake of keeping him, then I agree, its just stupid).
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If they continue to stink, and can declare the season over by the 4th of July (I am prepared to do so already), we know from the CC Sabathia trade, that an extra month can certainly increase the value of a guy like Fielder. When you factor in next year as well, he could bring a pretty good haul for a mid-season trade (Obviously, the question is who is your trading partner and what do they have to offer? A couple AL West teams. Atlanta and LA are sort of intriguing.), and would make all the sense in the world.
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Maybe they should ask guys like Jeff Suppan, Chris Capuano, Trevor Hoffman, Bill Hall, Eric Gagne...If we are going to use a guy who in all likelihood has played his final MLB game as the standard on player treatement, then there are going to be an awful lot of teams out there who are going to be viewed treating players without much class.
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No doubt. You need a damn war room just to know who's on the team.
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Why, so you can replace one of those other guys with someone you know can't produce (Stern)? If the situation gets that desperate, I assure you they will be able to find options for the 25th guy on the roster that will be as good or better than Stern. I con't believe I am even taking the time to argue what is a complete non-factor.
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Got it. Well, with Riske, Hawkins, Davis, and gerut all on teh Horizon, I suspect they are content to keep Suppan around for the time being in light of how badly the pitching staff has been raveged lately. The good news is, there should be no shortage of opportunities to say good bye in the coming weeks.
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Well if Edmonds can survive for a couple days, Gerut will be back. Inglett can play OF as well. The fact is Stern brought nothing to the party other than an ability to be a mediocre AAA player and fill out Nashville's roster, and there really was no reason to keep him around. Not sure how a bad player is considered depth. Adam Stern is not exactly difficult to replace. There are far better things to complain about with this team. This move is a net nothing.
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Really? Now we're complaining about the Brewers DFAing a 30 year old guy who clearly is not a MLB player, and was only here because of a series of injuries.
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Still a roster move to come with Edmonds, isn't there? At this point, that will almost have to be Suppan, won't it? I suppose Coffey could go on the DL, but that doesn't sound too likely.
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Parra had two seasons as a regular in the rotation, and frankly wasn't any good. Not sure what is to be gained by starting that experiment over again. His results as a reliever this year have been better overall (particularly before the entire pitching staff turned into a disaster). To me a better approach is to see what you have in him as a reliever. He has had 60 or so starts to demonstrate that he is not an effective starter, so I think the better approach is to continue to use him out of the bullpen to determine if he can pitch at all.
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Except of course that he was able to go out and make another start an pitch effectively. Had he blown up in the first inning, or complained about a sore arm, or what have you, he wouldn't be starting in FLA on Thu. You make it sound as if it is unusual for a team/player to come up with a rehabilitation plan and stick to it. Using your logic, they should have called him up straight from A a few weeks ago. Why bother putting the arm through any additional tests when he already looked good.
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The suggestion that Suppan is dishonest, or whatever you want to call it is just plain ridiculous. Its funny because I was just thinking about this over the weekend. When he finally is released, I will be very surprised if he doesn't offer up some sort of gesture (buying a bunch of tickets, making some large donation, etc.), probably at a pretty hefty price tag, as a 'thank you' on his way out of town. To question his ethics in any manner is crazy. He chose baseball as a career, and baseball chose him. He deserves every penny he is being paid because that is what the team agreed to pay him. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that he is loafing or not trying, which might be a different story, but it is a risk/reward system that works out well at times, and not so well at others.
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Very glad that West was fined, and more importantly, that it was made public. More of that is going to be needed to deal with some of these guys.