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My eyes have been opened.
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16-yo sailor Abby Sunderland has been rescued
DougJones43 replied to TooLiveBrew's topic in Off-Topic Forum
I'm quite sure a majority of the money she and her family will make from this entire ordeal will be due to going missing, being rescued, etc. That aspect of her voyage is what has gotten the most publicity, after all. -
16-yo sailor Abby Sunderland has been rescued
DougJones43 replied to TooLiveBrew's topic in Off-Topic Forum
This is a tricky one. It's hard to say that since what was being done was "for profit" that it means the family should have to pay for it. I mean, fishing boats are out there trying to make money, should they have to pay any time they need some type of assistance? On the other hand, most people don't exactly find attempting a reality TV show to be making an honest living, so in that regard it's not really the same. And you just know that the family will now end up making a ton of money now for book deals, exclusive TV interviews, etc. I think it would be the ethical thing to do, for the family to donate a good portion of this money to rescue/relief funds. For some reason though, I don't see that happening. -
Two scoreless inning so far. That's more than he ever gave us this year. Edit: Three scoreless innings, with 4 strikeouts. This is my nightmare.
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How many years ago was that? It would be a lot easier to give Melvin a break if he had obtained any well-regarded young arms during the past half decade and they just all failed to work out for one reason or another. That hasn't been the case. His solution has been instead to sign or trade for guys like Suppan, Vargas, Looper, Davis, etc -- in an ongoing attempt to put a band-aid on our pitching problems. It hasn't worked.
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Parra Replaces Bush in Rotation Sunday; Bush "not pleased"
DougJones43 replied to Funketown's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
On the broadcast today, they mentioned that Doug Davis should be rejoining the rotation soon -- after about 2 rehab starts. If Parra or Narveson get moved back into the bullpen to make room for Davis, I won't be attending another Brewer game this year. In fact, I might not even watch. How Melvin/Macha handle the rotation for the rest of the year will really illustrate whether or not they've learned anything, and if this organization has any chance of moving in the right direction. -
I don't think that would really be fair. It would have been hard to deal him two full years before free agency. Assuming he would have even hit close to what we normally expect, I was figuring the trading deadline this year, or at the latest the offseason would have been the ideal time to deal him. A full year to year-and-a-half of Fielder should have been able to net us a great return. There is absolutely no way Melvin could have expected him to tank this much. Hopefully he gets hot real soon. What I'm worried about is holding onto him until the trading deadline next year under some false hope that we'll contend, and then have to trade him for peanuts.
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Parra Replaces Bush in Rotation Sunday; Bush "not pleased"
DougJones43 replied to Funketown's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I thought he pitched very well. He struggled a bit in the first inning, but there was also an infield single involved. He was downright dominant in innings 2-5, retiring 12 out of the 13 batters he faced. He was striking out batters and looked over-powering to me. There was an at-bat with Hamilton where he blew a fastball by him on the inner-half. It was impressive. As his pitch count neared 100, he began to struggle with his command a little (which was to be expected due to the fact that he was buried in the bullpen for the first 6 weeks of the season). Contrary to Anthony Witrado's generalizations though, he didn't "lose it" and was able to battle through the inning. A very impressive and encouraging performance, in my opinion. -
That free agent list really brings some clarity to the fact that it is definitely not the answer. We're going to have to hope for the best with the guys we have (notably Parra and Narveson) and try to bring in some good prospects by trading Fielder, Hart, or both. I'm very afraid that Attanasio and Melvin will not have the patience to go this route, and will continue to make the same mistake of looking for an immediate remedy to our pitching woes by overpaying an aging free agent.
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If you read my entire post, you'd see the the two "soft tossing old guys" I was referring to were Davis and Suppan. I never said that about Wolf, and in fact said in the first paragraph of the post that I'm okay with the Wolf signing, so you're way off in your assumption that I was just tossing out the phrase in regards to anyone Melvin has signed.
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Although I thought we overpaid somewhat, and was never looking forward to the last year of the deal, I definitely thought Wolf would be much better than he has been. I still think he will rebound and am/was okay with the signing as a way to solidify the rotation. The Davis signing I never really got however, and forcing Suppan into the rotation was unforgivable -- and that's not backseat driving because I along with many others would have preferred to see a rotation of Gallardo/Wolf/Parra/Bush/Narveson with Suppan in long relief and depth. Much more youth and upside with that rotation, not to mention Parra/Narveson mesh much better with our defensive shortcomings than Davis/Suppan. In addition to that, there is the $6.25M (including next year's buyout) we could have saved by not signing Davis. Instead, Melvin and Macha plowed unnecessarily ahead with two soft-tossing old guys in the rotation, and the results were not exactly shocking. The rotation was bungled beyond belief since day 1 this season, and the results of that are still being felt right now.
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None of the guys Melvin signed (with the exception of Hoffman who is now 42) ever really destroyed opposition. If he was signing dominant pitchers in their mid-30's it would be a different story. He doesn't. He's signing guys like Suppan and Doug Davis -- borderline players, not rich in talent. These guys need pretty much everything to go right in order to be successful, and the further they get up in age the more risk there is they will slip just enough to become very ineffective. It's an extremely fine line with guys like Jeff Suppan, Doug Davis, and others. In addition to that, these guys need to have a solid defense behind them, or the risk for a meltdown becomes even more likely. Doug Davis would have a lot better results-oriented numbers this year if the defense behind him wasn't sub-standard. I just can't believe Melvin thought he could get away with these types of pitchers without at least making sure there were complimentary players backing them up.
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When players are old there's a big risk they will decline sharply and suddenly, get hurt, or both. Melvin seems to be behind the curve in realizing that since the steroid era effectively ended, you're not going to see many players ages 33-42 give you real reliable production -- yet he keeps spending gobs of money on these guys. He is creating a strong track record for himself of not being able to tell when players (usually pitchers) are at the end of the line. These guys last big payday always come from Melvin, and more often than not they don't even remain useful through the entire contract. Suppan. Gagne. Looper. Hawkins. Wolf. Davis. Hoffman. The list is long. With Suppan's contract finally coming off the books next year, we will then owe Wolf for two more years. One aged ineffective veteran contract replaced by another. It is disheartening to see the same mistakes repeated. A market like the Brewers cannot afford to waste as much money as we have wasted, and continue to waste. It's not some unforeseeable streak of bad luck. There's a reason most other teams passed on all these guys. If the organization had taken it's chances with more young, cheap players with upside, we probably wouldn't be any worse -- and the future (particularly financially) would look a lot better.
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Both. They're not good, and some of the below average luck hasn't helped. Even with above average luck for the season, they might have ended up around .500. I don't see any way a team with this kind of lack of pitching, and lack of overall direction, could be considered a playoff contender. The future is rather grim in my eyes. With the way they're handling things like Lucroy, Gamel, and the constant jerking around of the starting pitchers, I don't see the team gaining traction any time soon. I have no faith in the current regime, from Melvin on down to Macha and the assistants, to competently guide this franchise into the future.
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When I read that article today, I immediately thought of this thread. What Manny Parra showed yesterday was a glimpse of how brilliant he could be. It's not his fault he isn't stretched out enough to have gone farther. I was very enthused my Parra's start, and then coming across that twaddle by Anthony Witrado made me remember why I rarely read the JS for Brewer news. Unfortunately at work I am blocked from forums so I didn't have much choice. What a disappointment. I really don't think Witrado is even trying at this point. He should be fired. There has to be a multitude of better options. A majority of posters on this website could do substantially better than Witrado.
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Not that it necessarily should make Suppan feel better, but I think a lot of that booing was indirectly meant for Melvin and company. Suppan just became the poster boy for the sad state of the organization, which is due in no small part to all of the money wasted on marginal players who are past their prime. Most organizations would not have let things get as far as they did with Suppan. Common sense would have told them that the ill-will from the fans was not worth whatever production (and to a greater extent, pride for themselves) they were trying to squeeze out of Suppan these past few months. They let Suppan become the lightning rod for a frustrated fanbase, rather than admit their mistake -- and for that Doug Melvin and Mark Attanasio should be embarrassed.
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So you're saying fans would be more optimistic if the team was significantly better? Hmmm, interesting theory... And that reaction sounds more like "completely logical" than "highly emotional."
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The original poster is questioning Escobar's defensive play so far. Nobody was really expecting him to hit right away, but we did expect very good defense. So I think the only lack of understanding is on your part, in regards to what this thread is about.
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It would be one thing if Suppan signed the contract and then showed up out of shape or stopped giving maximum effort. I don't see this to be the case. At the very least, Suppan seems like he has always been a prepared, hard-working individual. He's just not a good pitcher. And it's the fault of Brewer management for not realizing this would be the case before making such a large offer.
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The only logical explanation left at this point is pridefulness.
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12 - 15 Jeff Suppan will post an ERA of over 7.00 during the month, but will still not be released. Prince Fielder will finally get hot, socking 11 homeruns during the month. Claudio Vargas will be brought back for a third stint with the team.
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Enough is enough. MERCY. What's it going to take for Jeff Suppan to get released? I don't respect somebody who is too prideful to admit their mistakes, and this is clearly the case when it comes to Doug Melvin with Suppan.
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This is an intriguing idea, but I think it would only need to be maybe once every 5 games or so. The entire pen having a night off every 5 games in addition to off-days should be plenty. And it should theoretically be done during a game that is at a margin of 4+ runs (losing OR winning) at the time of Suppan's entrance. That scenario should pop up around once every 5 games I would think. So (for example's sake), one game we're losing 7-2 or something after the 4th inning, just let Soup pitch the remaining 4-5 innings. We might end up losing by a little more than we would have otherwise, but a loss is a loss and was going to be the likely outcome anyway. A handful of days later, the team is winning 9-1 after 6 innings, and the starting pitcher is over 100 pitches. Let Suppan finish it! As bad as he is, the game is still likely to be won.
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Too Early to Be Demoralized?
DougJones43 replied to Warning Track Power's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Only one single time all season has a Brewers starting pitcher (Randy Wolf vs PIT) gone more than 7 innings. -
Why Do Some Want to Fire Melvin?
DougJones43 replied to zzzmanwitz's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I think it might be a bit of a reach to include Narveson in the "talented pitcher with upside" group at this point, although I do suppose he could turn into the next Chris Capuano and he definitely has more upside than Davis or Suppan. I agree with you on Parra, but in my view it's ultimately Melvin's fault (and appears to be in line with Melvin's philosophy on pitching and building a team) that a guy like Parra is stuck in the bullpen with his growth being stunted. Melvin blocked and buried him by signing Doug Davis and refusing to cut ties with Jeff Suppan this offseason. If this team is going to make any noise, it's going to have to sink or swim with a guy like Manny Parra. The way this club is being handled under Melvin is a way that reeks of grasping for that 81st win every year, in my opinion.
