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This is not a real thing. William is the best pitching framer in the MLB and anyone saying otherwise is not watching this man work this season and is making up nonsense reported as truth. We watch William catch every night. We watch him day in day out and what this report says is not reality and any framing stat issue is coming from the fact pitchers are throwing balls so far outside the box that he cannot frame those pitches without go go gadget arms. This is what we call FAKE NEWS .

Saying William is Bad in 2024 at framing is pure and complete GARBAGE reporting that holds no reality whatsoever in actual games. He has been brilliant framing the ball as he always has been and makes Sanchez look like a AA catcher by comparison. I swear people who write about the Brewers do not watch Brewers games.

Chouiro is no shortstop. This thread is not about Adames it is about William and his career here. I would love to see the updated topic spoken of after William now looks like a guy who is probably the best in the entire MLB .

I think you should stop watching Brewers baseball and pick up with the Cubs or the Cardinals . the Brewers will always loose if this is how the fans believe baseball must be played in 2024. You do not trade away your best players every single season to hope you score on prospects who might someday be worth it, William IS the best catcher in baseball and replacing best players with prospects will neve win a championship no matter how many times you do it. You win with great players. You loose when you get rid of your best players.

why would you ever want to trade him after extending him? These are the ideas of a fanbase who is just to used to losing. I think the entire Brewers fanbase needs to chance the way they look at the Brewers or we will never win anything ever.

What you just said is weird and wrong. William is 26 . He is the best player at catcher in the MLB today and he is going to get better not worse and everything you just said about a catcher is weirdly incorrect . It does not matter what position they play when they hit 350 constantly and are the most dangerous at bat the brewers have had since Yount or Molitor . You do not trade away MVP hitters .

Why is it wrong to have two good catchers that can hit locked up for a long time?

When I read these I understand why the Brewers never win anything real . The fanbase simply has gotten so used to trading away good players and making it normal that this team will never get a foothold to being a truly great team . you do not trade MVPs and William is an MVP of the entire Show yet so many of you are perfectly happy just selling out so other teams can win with our developed players. It is so sad .

He is the MVP of the 2024 season . Now what are we waiting for ?

then you are why the Brewers will never win anything . trading the best hitter in baseball instead of extending him for a decade is how you lose forever.

I do not mind the signing. White is young and was a top 50 prospect at one time in his life recently . What I do have a problem with is playing him at the MLB level right away. If the Crew believe they can fix him which would have to happen to get him on the path again... They should have him in Nashville or Biloxi not out there giving up a run an inning in the Show. This guy has been so bad this season that throwing him in there and praying he stops being terrible is madness and not going to help White fix his issues. The signing is okay but the using him right away is the mistake. I think they can fix White. In a season or two they could get him back to form and probably have a starter if they are patient . however what he is now is bad. He is broken and his confidence is lost currently . The Brewers have a team good enough to win the entire thing this year if they had the pitchers in tow from 2023 with this team we would be a Dodger killer this season but we do not. The Crew have pitching issues to correct and Gasser and Jacob do not fix it . White really does not.

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He has plenty of control . The numbers are jaded by him working on new pitches not because he lacks control . They have him developing a couple counter pitches to his main 3 and those are works in progress. His pitches work and he has great command of those 3 main pitches which in all worlds play at the MLB level . I have been here in Biloxi this entire season watching him pitch and you all are missing out by begging the Brewers to stave off their best weapon. Mis may not be as good as he will be in 3 years but that is the case with most 22 year old ball players. What he does give you today is a pitcher with 3 of the best pitches in the game today . Those 3 pitches alone would be enough and he can still work on the other 3 pitches he is developing which are hurting his BB/9 and other stats that are completely meaningless. Blaylock was called up from AA not because the Crew really wanted him up but to show Jacob he can make it the same way and will be a Brewer probably before he is a Sounds pitcher . Just like Blaylock he will get called up soon. The game last night showed they need him and are counting on this to happen this year. They optioned V last night so they need more pitching help and we cannot talk about actual solutions without the moderator getting offended. So we are left talking about Jacob .

"Everyone in the farm system knows he will not do well." that is not what I hear and I have actually interviewed his personal pitching tutors this season and they say the opposite completely . They know his stuff would play right now and it did in Spring Training by the way. What you just said is the opposite of how the Brewers see Jacob and not how every team he has pitched against this season thinks. The velocity and even the control thing is simple . He is working on 2 other pitches and does not have control of those extra new pitches yet. However his pitches which he does have good command of are as good as what Skenes throws. So all that is nonsense.

How dare we discuss things that you disagree with moderator . My goodness how dare we tread on a thread topic you do not want to hear because of your own political bias .

I strongly disagree. Skenes proved you do not need to wait when you have a flame thrower with 3 pitches that play at MLB level like Jacob . We brought up a AA pitcher last night and this was in preparation to bring up Jacob soon too. Just like they did with Myers before Gasser this was a move to put Misirowski in his place right before they call him up. He is coming up. He will be pitching in Blue in 2024 . Be excited and stop worrying. The numbers he is putting up in Biloxi are jaded because at AA they are trying to get him to learn new pitches which f with his numbers . His best 3 pitches play at the MLB level all day . What blows my mind is all you who have an opinion have not watch him pitch one time this season or last. You probably even missed his Spring Training mound time which was dominate against MLB bats. This guy should come up. Putting him back down is not hard to do and it does not hurt him . Experience at the MLB mound level is more important for a pitcher like him than anything he can learn in AA .

White signing was questionable at best .

why is it rushing if he can throw 105 now? There is no waste to experience and AA is NOT experience . The only thing keeping him in AA right now is fear. Fear should not be a motivation for keeping a star down. Stars need to shine or they burn out . Jacob is just to good to slow play to much. He has more now than 80% of all MLB pitching. He can play big league ball TODAY and win. What he can be with more pitches is Trevor Bauer good with more speed. Speaking of Trevor Bauer by the way. SIGN THAT MAN NOW !

Those numbers are meaningless. In AA he is working on new pitches which hurt his numbers that he won't be using if called up. the 7,2 bb/9 numbers you posted are meaningless. That would not be how he pitches in the Show if called up as his pitches would be limited to what he does best instead of working on new stuff . You can see that number falling greatly if he was just throwing his best 3 pitches instead of working on new stuff all the time which is what is going on in AA . For all of you who think like this I strongly suggest you stop looking at paper stats and watch him play. He is ready to win at the highest levels and his best stuff is better than 80% of anyone currently in the MLB pitching right now. Yes he can be worked into a more rounded pitcher with time and would have 2 or 3 more pitches with time maybe. However it is obvious what he can do right now would play at a very high level TODAY . He would stop pitching experimental pitches instantly with a call up by design and would focus in on the 3 pitches he has already mastered which are killers with very little answers for batters and would be near impossible to hit . I do not know anything real about what the Brewers will do ever but as far as Jacob goes any move is the right move because he is just that good. If we want a peak at what he is capable of in The Show let him pitch. Brining him back down is not the end of the world and there is no wasting options.

Remember his numbers are not important. In AA he is working on new pitches and his control looks worse than it is because of that . When he hits his pitches he is a shutdown guy who has every bit of what you need to win in the Show. He can develop more to his game if you leave him in AA and AAA as a starter but if your goal is a starter waiting is needed probably and if not bring him right now and just let him throw his 3 pitches and win with him.

I think if they really want a starter you wait . If you want a bullpen guy what he has is perfectly suited for the Show as it stands right now. If he is going to be a bullpen guy bring him up now. If he is a future starting pitcher leave him be. What I saw in Spring Training from Jacob was a guy who can strike out any MLB batter today. The guys good . His future is bright and it can go several ways.

We have an ALL Star Closer Right now and its not Williams . McGill is the best closer in the MLB right now. Hidden from most I know but McGill is throwing better than any closer in the NL right now and its obvious . Williams is a nice piece but I say trade him Hader style because the Brewers have a closer worth keeping as is. Williams is better than McGill but not by much and McGill's heat is what is winning in the MLB today.

This news is not about Jacob as much as it is about Skenes . We are jealous and that is all . Jacob is not really ready but even so what he does do would play at the MLB level. However what he can be as good as anyone in the current bullpen as is if you wanted him to just be a couple inning a game guy max . If you want a starter with a rifle for an arm you wait. However I really do not believe that is the plan for him anyways. I think he is the next Hader/Williams Closer for the Crew and not the next big starter . Who knows really? Only the Crew knows the plan for now. The truth is the Brewers are really good and will be getting better through 2024 as more bats come back into play. They need better pitching no doubt . Gasser helps but the team needs an ACE and Freddy is not giving them that right now. There is one name and one name ONLY that gets the Crew to the place they need to get. Trevor Bauer who is currently pitching in Mexico for no good reason ! He would be dominate and unhittable and would also cost less than your average newbie . If the Brewers are serious about winning for a change giving Bauer his MLB opportunity would propel this team deep into a run for something they have never had. A World Series WIN!

Anyone who is worried about this is lost . He won't be coming up in 2024 because it is not his time though by the break he could find AAA work for sure. As exciting as it is to watch that kid From Pitt to scorch batters and want the same Misiorowski is not ready though even so what he has now will play in the Show. He is a guy who can dominate MLB bats even with his flaws because his best stuff is magic . His walks are simple to explain as he is working on new pitches in AA which is why he is there. In AAA you are prepping to be a pro. In AA you are developing different things you do not get to develop AAA and above. So do not let his walks stats scare you. He is not a wild pitch thrower. He is just working on a couple pitches which of course give him a few more Balls than normal . So be it in development. The Brewers need pitching help . That is obvious. But Jacob is not giving the Brewers a Skenes in 2024 . HOWEVER TREVOR BAUER IS PITCHING IN MEXICO !!! If the Brewers want to add a cheap pitcher who could dominate the entire MLB and give this team a Pennant in this season there is one name out there that can check all the boxes of need and price . Trevor Bauer is an INNOCENT MAN who is currently being railroaded by MLB because he fought them when the MeeToo thing went down BECAUSE he was innocent. Trevor Bauer is the answer for the Brewers and he would not only dominate with a chip so big on his shoulder after his displacement no batter will hit the guy HE WILL BE CHEAP AS HECK which is what the Brewers covet most above all things. Forget a long shot on a AA prospect who is just not ready. Sign Bauer for peanuts and WIN THIS WHOLE DAMN THING! Go Crew!