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I thought 4 was? 'Tis 3.

Capellan would have to give up a run to make it a save situation.

May 27th, 24-23.

Jose Capellan time? Eh?

3 more out for .503!

Russ, you're a knucklehead and a jerk. Cue the first three Reds batters...

I continue to be an anti-big Julio Santana fan.

.500+ .503, mind you. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

Guys, stop posting play by play, stop posting about play by play, stop posting about posting about play by play, and stop posting about the merits of those who do or do not like play by play. Thank you.

We're not going to offer him arby, so he's as good as gone. Speaking of... Wes Helms, ladies and gentleman!

Forgive me if this has already been asked, when was the last time we were above .500 this late in the season? 1992? I know we had an 80 win season somewhere between 92 and last year. The Brewers went 80-82 in 1996, and 78-83 in 1997.

Helling also needs to be watched closely - he's up over 100 pitches in his 6th inning of work. As I was saying...

Ralph...kinda grumpy! Actually, he's right. We don't need a play-by-play. Helling also needs to be watched closely - he's up over 100 pitches in his 6th inning of work. If the bullpen hadn't been used and abused so much yesterday, I'd pull him after the inning, but maybe now I'd let him go one more and see what happens.

There are instances when pure statistical analysis is necessary. There are instances when no statistical analysis is necssary. However, both of the above instances are extremely rare. There generally has to be a comingling of statistical and perceptual data, and judging defense is certainly one of those cases. Defensive metrics (or those defensive metrics that the general public know about) are laregly much more flawed than offensive and pitchers metrics for the simple fact that defense is much more of a reactive statistic while pitching and hitting are proactive statistics. A batter can choose to swing or not, a pitcher (to some extent) can choose whether or not to throw a strike (or, try to make the batter make contact; at the very least, you could say the pitcher controls the ball) - there is no situation in which a pitcher and the batter are not involved in every play (save for pick-off attempts or balks or similar on-mound events). However, defense, much less individual defensive players themselves, are not involved in every play. This makes defensive counting-based statistics almost irrelevant, especially when comparing players on different teams. Even comparing players playing the same position on the same team becomes problematic because of small sample size - if a guy gets 5 balls hit his way per game, and 2 or 3 guys divvy up the games during the year, there just probably aren't as many chances to go around as might be necessary to form a valid conclusion. I'm sure there are very good defensive metrics out there (mainly those based on computer-measured range), but I'm even more sure that we simply don't know about them because clubs won't give up their proprietary information. Why would they. So we're left with defensive computations that put players on different teams at great advantages and disadvantages to each other. So, I'd say that without these good defensive metrics at our disposal, what we observe on the field in terms of range, throwing arm, etc., is at least equally as important as to what we read in the statistical tables. Some inferences can be made with defensive statistics, but they are always mitigated by the weakness of their own composition.

What is T-Bow going for in that picture? Nice win by the Crew. I think we can all agree that 'Rillo would be a good guy to bring back next spring.

While I'm looking, I'll also mention that another victory (#1http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/glasses.gif by Capuano would tie him for 4th all-time for single-season wins by a Brewer along with Higuera, Sorenson and Vukovich. Colborn and Higuera have 20 wins, and Caldwell has 22. Doug Davis is now 4th on the single-season strikeout list with 193, behind Higuera (207 and 240), and Sheets (264). Ben Sheets moved into 3rd all-time on the strikeout list, with 826, trailing Slaton (929) and Higuera (1081). He's also in 10th place all-time in games started, with 149.

A save by Turnbow tonight would give him 34, moving him past Dan Plesac (33) into 4th all-time for the Brewers' single season saves record. Doug Jones (36), Bob Wickman (37) and Danny Kolb (39) are ahead of him.

D Lee is overrated! ?

Yes, sticking with Davis is a good idea.

Thanks for stating that rather than helping.... I have no idea what their email address is. As I was saying, if they made it more readily available, maybe I would know.

What is the email address to email Daron and Bill? Once you find that out, email them and tell them to put their email address in a more conspicuous place online. It seems like someone asks this every other game thread.

What are the odds someday people will quit throwing around "Yeah he was on roids last year" statements like they know something. Everyone knows everything, what are you talking about?

Davis might get to 200 K's here tonight.

This team is frustrating to watch a lot of the time, but it is better than conceding defeat most of the time, like the past 12 years. At the end of the year, this team will win somewhere between 78-82 games, just like 95% of the people here thought they would. While I agree that closers shouldn't be used solely for save opportunities, I wouldn't have used Turnbow either. That means he would have been in four of the last five games (and four days out of six), and may not have been available tomorrow. I guess I'd rather have him tomorrow for a potential save opportunity than have him come in the game tonight to protract the game for another inning.

Crap-ola.