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  1. Turning2
    They should have been looking for bats 5-6 weeks ago IMO. Should have pressed the Twins for Brooks Lee a month+ ago, kept Lara in Nash, and hunted for a bigger RF bat, None of that matters if top of the order guys don’t get going though.
  2. Turning2
    There aren’t any needle moving bats to be had at this point. They should have been looking for a couple of bats a month ago.
  3. Turning2
    Oops
  4. Turning2
    I find it admirable that he decides to continue playing there all these years. Doesn’t he have a no trade clause
  5. Turning2
    I don’t need constant chatter. Empty spaces are good.
  6. Turning2
    OK Levering, we get it…. there are lots of Cali connections
  7. Turning2
    Not likely that they would move him, especially now. My thought was that with the control, he would be a perfect bridge until Made / Fischer arrive. I don't expect them until 2028, or possibly late next year if there is a season. The timing would have worked out pretty well I think. I meant I can't speculate on what the Twins would have asked for in return. Sounds like they have a decent farm system too. They would surely want value, but I meant to imply that it wouldn't be much compared to bigger trade targets like Abrams. It's all moot now with them buying instead of selling.
  8. Turning2
    Pick one... easy.... #13 Brooks Lee.. Modest power, hitting for average, blossoming, controllable. We can't speculate on MN's mindset regarding buyer / seller and what they might seek to trade an emerging team leader. But they are not close to being WS competitive. They are rebuilding. They cannot, will not ask for the moon on him. MIL should use its prospect abundance and pursue Lee. He would/should bring some respectable pop and average to 3B without selling the farm. Better than either Ortiz or Hamilton. He brings some control, so is cheap(er). Those couple years align with when some prospects should arrive to make him tradeable. This is an obvious low cost / high reward type of move. And before anyone asks, I would be OK trading Pena or Jett (useless surplus, money not going to earn interest) and a secondary piece, perhaps two depending on value. Point being, a fair trade value could be arranged. No guarantee that Lee pays off, but we have a pretty established idea of expectation regarding Ortiz and Hamilton at the plate.
  9. Turning2
    I'm done taking on "all comers" tonight. Cheers and go Brewers!
  10. Turning2
    Good points. Wish we could talk in person. The whole point is that certain intellectually honest assessments need to be made by fans to keep expectations in check. Rooting for the underdog to win a championship "against all odds" year after year gets to be a schtick for suckers. My wrath is with MLB players Union / ownership more so than the Brewers front office. The front office is a business. Spoiler?? They don't care about championships. They care about profit margins, staying viable as a business, just like the lemming corporates I work for. And I don't blame the ownership group. They have invested. They expect a profit. They do not care about championships as long as the clients keeping buying the product and showing the books in the black. This is not complicated to understand.
  11. Turning2
    You are misconstruing my original posts and follow ups. The Brewers do indeed do things to offset the lack of power and are largely successful in the regular season because of it. It doesn't get them past the ultimate finish line, however. My first post implied that they won't win a championship without upgrading the offensive output from DH, 3B and the OF without a whole lot of serendipity. People vomit out numbers, but they are just numbers. Isolate those numbers to the offensive production in the playoffs of the recent past. Conveniently, nobody does that. Every MIL roster from year to year is different, there is still a pattern that can be recognized from an organizational perspective. I don't blame the current guys on the roster.
  12. Turning2
    Your entire post is an astute, intellectually honest observation combining data plus.... well, what actually is/has been taking place. As a former glove and arm first but bat OK SS,... I LOVE their run prevention. I adore Ortiz and Turang's glove work. I can also recognize that the team needs more offense collectively from one of those positions. I would trade less defense for more above average pop at a pop position (3B).
  13. Turning2
    Agreed. They are further away than just a single bat upgrade. Potential injuries can never be factored of course. Truly... nothing can be factored. It's all speculation based upon past performance. We can cling to hoping for "luck" though, and I do. I still want our guys to man up against LA (or whoever) and let the best baseball players win..... meanwhile exposing how insulting the tilted playing field is.
  14. Turning2
    Nope. They occasionally are able to show some grit and steal a win from the jaws of defeat, sure. Who were they playing, who was pitching against them... that's another evaluation however. Can you honestly say you believe this offense has shown enough ability to overcome the odds, adversity, superior pitching etc to ... do it? On a scale of 1-10, I'm about a 6 in confidence that the bats don't go cold. It's a monkey see, monkey do domino effect offense. - everybody hot, or everybody cold (generally speaking). And the track record is they go cold come important time (playoffs). I love the team. I love the entertainment value (although I waste too much time after work on the game rather than homestead tasks because they're too good not to watch 😁). I'm driving many hours and spending lots of money next week to take my family to our "once a year" game splurge. But I'm just calling a spade a spade. Thank you for the support. We may not always agree, but I appreciate that you recognize I'm not being intentionally malicious, just providing a counter perspective. A mature, mutually respectful exchange of differing views is healthy in any circle of discussion. Pretty much what the founders had in mind in constructing the Constitution. They had a mutual interest in the well being of the new nation, We here have a mutual interest in the well being of the Brewers.
  15. Turning2
    I'm not condescending anyone by my understanding of that term. If others interpret it that way, that is beyond my control. That is not my intent. The pushback, I suspect, is driven from a version of cognitive dissonance - essentially - being confronted with what a person doesn't want to have to acknowledge as true. The polite term is "whistling past the graveyard". So, the obvious thing I must question is .... what stats support ... "but of all major sports out there, baseball is the one where stats tell the biggest part of that story". Do you recognize the irony? Most fans seem to be content relying on stats / metrics to tell the story... until the story can't be supported by stats / metrics. We can't claim "numbers" if we can't support with "numbers". That's why I don't claim "numbers" generally speaking. Stats / metrics / measurements are an indicative tool, but they should never be wholly relied upon as many are want to do. LOL... all I'm saying is .... they need more consistent offense, one that instills fans with confidence in the clutch / high pressure scenarios. Winning a ton of games, scoring a ton of runs, flattering stat rankings mean NOTHING if they can't do it when it counts the most. That shouldn't be an unpopular, contentious opinion.
  16. Turning2
    We haven't landed on anything as a baseline definition. Using LA as the standard is a reasonable comparison, but it also is not the end all be all. I never said it was. I'll ask you the same question - If the Brewers had a pitching staff equal to the Dodgers in every metric, stat etc - do you believe that our offense could win the WS by their offensive capability alone. This assumes that pitching and defense is equal). If great pitching beats great hitting, but both teams have equal pitching - how confident are you that our bats would beat their bats?
  17. Turning2
    In a nutshell... yep. Unfortunately, people get offended when that is pointed out because they can't see the forest (the big picture reality) for the (statistical) trees.
  18. Turning2
    That is a reasonable response. We must understand however that the "facts" (a/k/a - the stats, metrics) don't exclusively determine sports outcomes. There are other, non-measurables that can't be accounted for. Can the spreadsheets account the impact of such on oddity as a 5 hour delay on the charter plane? Of course not. Similarly, other "outside the numbers" things cannot be measured such as heart, ego, drive, competitiveness, pride. This discussion topic has careened way off what I intended, which was to try an identify the holes on this roster. To be clear... I like the team, I support the team. But I also don't whistle past the numbers graveyard in hopes of a WS. I'm a realist that doesn't operate simply by robotic numbers. The numbers lie to those who bow before that altar. They are not close to winning a WS without some incredible serendipity falling into place. I am not bashing the team. I'm just saying that I believe this is what improvements need to be made in order to truly compete.
  19. Turning2
    Stats and data aren't the gospel truth, the end all be all. Consistent is demonstrating that on any given day you have the capability to score 5+ runs, and it might require a 3 run bomb on a somewhat regular basis. There probably isn't a perfect match for "what team achieves this" standard. It's highly subjective as it must be because again..... the numbers don't tell the whole story. Here's a question for you - If the Brewers had a pitching staff equal to the Dodgers in every metric, stat etc - do you believe that our offense could win the WS by their offensive capability alone. This assumes that pitching and defense is equal). If great pitching beats great hitting, but both teams have equal pitching - how confident are you that our bats would beat their bats?
  20. Turning2
    Nope
  21. Turning2
    Isn't that basically saying "why bother playing? The outcome is already determined by the past numbers". No, we should reasonably expect that eventually they overcome the hurdle of "a guy we have never beaten, in a park... etc". The Brewers faced 4 "Logan Webbs" in the NLCS and might possibly do so again this year. We're basically admitting and accepting that the Brewers' annual ceiling is getting bounced once they reach a certain level of playoff pitching. The starting of Cannone didn't bother me, they are managing innings due to injury bum luck to Priester and losing the ill-fated gamble on Woodruff's health with a QO. If all the impressive (on paper) offensive rankings were as meaningful as they look, then the offense should be able to carry the challenges to the depleted pitching staff. It often doesn't. And that will be their death knell once again at season's end.
  22. Turning2
    Did you not read the second sentence. This is a topic I could have posted any day after any game. Of course, good teams, lose games. There is more nuance to it than a simple scan of the W-L record.
  23. Turning2
    Yes, by the numbers, they look good on paper. That just shows that raw data doesn't reveal the whole picture. Baseball is not as straightforward as numbers on a spreadsheet. It was fairly easy to see early on that they weren't winning the game yesterday.
  24. Turning2
    Funny… just started listening to the Potawatomi Sportsbook show pod with Allen and Fifer. Tim is saying the exact same things about the inconsistency https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/7-29-26-the-potawatomi-sportsbook-post-game-show-w/id1163449625?i=1000779017359
  25. Turning2
    This isn't a reaction to the blowout. I feel the same when they win in a blowout too. MIL doesn't have enough consistent offense to win a championship. Ignore the W-L record and the other flattering offensive rankings. Those numbers create a mirage covering up the warts. Individually, there is something endearing about each player. Collectively the lineup can be pretty good. At the end of the day though, it's just too Jekyll and Hyde. They have 3 areas that need fixing and it isn't happening this season with trades. Hard choices need to be made. Some guys we like individually have to be replaced in the offseason. DH - This only gets fixed if Yeli can regain some of his past (how grateful would we be at this point if he managed .245 / 20 HRs) Either way, we're stuck with whatever he has left until he's off the books. 3B - Hard not to like Ortiz and Hamilton, but one or the other has to go. OF - I like the group as individuals, but there has to be more pop from it collectively. It seems to come down to Mitchell, Frelick and Lara - at least one has to be upgraded and probably 2. Considering the commitment to Lara, that is probably Sal at minimum.
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