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Found this interesting. And aggravating. The Brewers clearly need an above average bat upgrade added to the OF. Boston still has a surplus of them. The Yankees sign Cody Bellinger, the Mets trade for Freddy Peralta, and the Red Sox are still searching for a trade partner
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Peralta and Myers traded for Jett Williams and Sproat
Turning2 replied to torts's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
No, and that's why there is usually other players involved to balance out the value. If all the farm system hype is to be believed, MIL has too many high quality prospects and not enough room for them all. Put a package together along with Freddy and bring a hitter in. That would have been realistic. -
Peralta and Myers traded for Jett Williams and Sproat
Turning2 replied to torts's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
That is not the level of hitter I'm talking about -
Peralta and Myers traded for Jett Williams and Sproat
Turning2 replied to torts's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Why not pursue Abreu or Duran or guys of that red chip level? That doesn't seem like an absolute unrealistic scenario. Sometimes the stars align and a guy of that caliber can be acquired for all kinds of reasons. -
Peralta and Myers traded for Jett Williams and Sproat
Turning2 replied to torts's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Not my job to scour rosters to find a match. But as noted previously, Boston has a surplus of OF with decent bats. Plus they were looking for pitching. But MIL appears to have fiddle F'd around too long and Boston found other options. Maybe that wasn't ever a possibility, we don't know. Regardless, out of all the teams that expressed interest in Peralta, including the ones that we didn't hear about, there had to be somebody they could have worked out. -
Peralta and Myers traded for Jett Williams and Sproat
Turning2 replied to torts's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Considering they are already drowning in small, lighter hitting players and / or INF prospects, it seems like they could have packaged redundant prospect capital and Freddy for a proven MLB high quality bat. Do they need another 5 foot 7 inch young guy that bad? I like Arnold, but I'm critical of this much more than other moves. They need proven MLB HITTERs, or at least dudes with a frame that can grow and put on muscle. Not another small guy who probably can't hit with power at the big boy level. Perplexing. -
MIL does not need yet another small, light hitting entirely unproven prospect for F's sake. This tells me that they are either positioning to flip Jett W. in another trade for a bigger bat OR they aren't as excited about some of the infield prospects as we're led to believe. It would not surprise me in the least however that they are quite content with another 5' 7' infielder, and that we've had a bunch of smoke blown up our kilts about how deep the farm system with SS/infield prospects. There is one SS job available in the near future. Pratt, Made, Pena Jett Williams can't all play it at the same time. Some might slide to 3B, but obviously, there is already a logjam of prospects there too. Makes no sense.
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Brice Turang Joins Team USA For 2026 World Baseball Classic
Turning2 replied to Jason Wang's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
The liability for the player salary is covered. But I wonder about the franchise losing potentially a year of player’s service. That negatively impacts their bottom line from possible loss of revenues. Maybe they take out an insurance policy too. The event promotes the league. Just seems like an unnecessary risk for star players. -
Doesn't seem to be much noise about them looking for another non prospect, real bat. Confounding.
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Brice Turang Joins Team USA For 2026 World Baseball Classic
Turning2 replied to Jason Wang's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Have never watched this exhibition. I get the novelty, but it sure seems like a great way to get a key player injured prior to the MLB games that matter. Why would MLB franchises expose themselves to such a risk, especially small market teams? Do the Brewers get paid for allowing Turang to participate? -
There is always a chance. The odds are extremely and unfairly long for a small market team like MIL, but a slim chance always exists. Just having a small market franchise reach the championship series over other big market teams with unlimited spending restraints indicates that. I joked before about an injury bug, but it could happen. If one of the Dodgers starters blew an elbow during the series, or takes a come backer that knocks him out, or if a couple of their big bats are in a slump or someone blows a hammy. Weird things happen. It's ridiculous that a small market would need things like that to occur as well as taking care of their own business in order to win it all, ... but a chance always exists. A key thing is your "big guys" can't disappear in the big games. One player might make 5X the $$$ of another guy, but that doesn't mean he has 5X the talent. There is not that much talent difference in relation to salary. At some point, the small market stars need to step up and play big in the big moments.
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Pretty sure I heard league average batting average is around .235. In two seasons as a starter, he is just a tick over and below that. But to my eyes (I don't do metrics), he is among the top defensive SS in the league. Probably the best defensive SS they have in the organization (did not see Turang when playing SS in the minors however). Regardless, I think Ortiz' arm is stronger than Turang's. In limited games and highlights I've seen of Pratt, Made, Pena in the minors, none of them have wowed me yet. Ortiz' range, glove, arm wows me. Agree with a previous comment about he hasn't been the same at the plate since the neck injury. Maybe that explains the back half of '24. Last year he switched from 3B to SS. Possibly that extra pressure and responsibility affected his bat. Guys start pressing when they're slumping. It snowballs. Maybe that explains his offense and swing decisions from last year. Maybe not. Either way, I'm not ready to give up on him. If he could get to the .240+ range with a dozen HRs, and maintaining his defense I could live with that. If we get to June, he's healthy, and we see the same struggles, then I think we know what we need to know.
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2025-26 Offseason Around the League Thread
Turning2 replied to sveumrules's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
The Tucker signing may have been the straw that broke the camel’s back, but I doubt it. -
2025-26 Offseason Around the League Thread
Turning2 replied to sveumrules's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
At first glance, that sounds like a decent solution, especially from the perspective of the pro-salary cap camp. The players would most likely view it as a de-facto salary cap dressed in a different set of clothes. Players entering first time free agency around age 31-32 when some still have a little gas in the tank. Big money teams would still spend crazy $$ for them if that was the only way to buy championships. But it would give the low budget teams more years to try and build a championship team too. If LA, NY, BOS, PHI etc could only load up their rosters with 31-32 year olds who might quickly decline, and had to be more dependent upon trades and farm system development, it might level out the playing field to some degree. -
That's what they are selling publicly. Doesn't mean it's true. It's all gamesmanship and posturing. But I agree, they are much more likely to hold him than they were with the other two due to the bargain price and productivity.
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If they are privately set on trading Peralta, I hope they haven't overplayed their hand. The leverage might be dwindling. I still say, keep him and trade some prospects and roster bubble guys as possible for a meaningful OF bat.
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Peralta, Woodruff, Priester, Mis = likely top 4 Henderson, Patrick, Ashby, Hall, Gasser, Meyers are 6 more viable for 5 spot in the rotation. Plus guys like Crow and a few on the farm. Either they believe in these guys, or they are exaggerating how great our young pitching is. Probably a little of both. Sure, you can never have enough pitching, but at some point, you need more slug too. Pitching, team speed and elite defense isn't getting them to the WS. They won a lot of games, they scored a lot of runs in 2025, but it was clearly not enough. Nobody wants division championships to be our WS.
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Yes, that could be a possibility. It also might mean they aren't convinced Mis can anchor the top when both Woody and Peralta are gone.
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What does it say if the trade brings back a starter and prospects rather than a proven MLB bat? We’re always told how great our farm system is and how much promising young pitching they have. That should mean we don’t need more pitching and prospects. If moving Peralta doesn’t bring in a bat, the hype about the farm and young pitching is partially BS.
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Agreed. This team seems allergic to pursuing proven big-league bats when they have trade leverage.
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Coming from a home with split loyalties, I saw a fair amount of Bader last year. If he could replicate last year's performance, that could be a decent pickup, if not a major needle mover.
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