Brewersfan1

A good chunk of the 162 games lol

To a lesser extent throw in Fischer, Zamora and Black. Just more innings to fill. Not a bad problem to have.. Get them all playing!!

Turang was going to be the shortstop over Ortiz until his arm issues came up. Williams could go to 2nd, Ortiz 3rd, Turang short (I don’t think that will happen, but easily as realistic as anything else right now).

I’m sold!!

Muscle doesn’t slow people down. He can put on muscle and still play shortstop. He won a gold glove, he seems physically capable.

I think you forgot to read the article my guy

Well since there has been internal turn over in the past few years I’m sure teams have tried. How pitchers perform isn’t quantifiable? Brewers pretty consistently grab some dude with a 6.00 era, tweak some things and send them out to have a career. There are other organizations who do it well too. Simply rank them. Just like any other rankings list there are differing opinions. Or is there one top 100 list that is 100% accurate? If so, send it over please! Could simply ask players who have been in organizations with and without questions about the differences too.

Well that means he was held down, no? Lol. Williams is not plan A (He could become plan A if he’s put on the 40 man roster). Plan A, I’d imagine, is Ortiz SS, Turang 2nd, Mitchell CF. One has to bad or get hurt and Williams might get called up. Similar to how plan A failed and Durbin got called up. I think we are on the same page here. I’m incredibly confused!

It’d be awesome if he forced his way on the roster out of spring, but he’s not on the 40 man and he’s had 130 ABs in AAA. They can leave him off the 40 man, give Ortiz (and others like Lockridge) until the super 2 date and reevaluate. Even Durbin they waited on and there was a much clearer path for him at 3rd last spring (I think Durbin may have been banged up in spring, but don’t remember though).

And that’s where we’ll never agree. There’s years of penny pinching from these two franchises - otherwise one wouldn’t be moving and one wouldn’t have a whole fanbase calling Mark A cheap. One year of signing the players you mentioned is questionable at best. Those were minimal contracts to get the MLBPA off their back. These franchises go to arbitration with players for hundreds of thousands (nothing according to this thread) because that money adds up to, sometimes, their biggest free agent signing for the year.

That’s fair. Although I’d add let’s wait till FA kicks in for smaller market teams to see if this is a trend or one year to avoid getting in trouble as the other commenter pointed out. They did a lot in the minor league rule 5 and have a couple smaller signings.

If they like everything else about the deal, the sweetener isn’t needed and why would the Brewers add him to it? That’s why I think the trade and value past just peanuts couple thousand K. I think they do, I agree with you, that they’d want a cheaper player with actual value. Not hoping Mitchell, not only miraculously stays healthy, but is actually good. A sweetener to me has some value. He’s always had the tools and shown glimpses of them until injury. Granted it was only 80 PAs, but they were a really bad 80 PAs. I won’t pretend to know the answer to if that was from injuries or not. They are stacking up and it’s fair to ask that question isn’t it? I get it I’m side tracking again.

I’m fully aware of the discussion. I’m talking trade value because it matters when talking about the difference in the salaries. I don’t believe Pratt/Patrick gets the trade done, so the Brewers have to throw in the “peanuts” contract of Mitchell. A more expensive, older throw in to essentially replace the hole Soderstrom leaves, is not how the A’s operate (going off their past work). Realistically Mitchell probably makes around $1 mil next year (not the $2 mil the comment, I responded to, said was peanuts. Another way to say $2 mil, is double league minimum. Which may sound like “peanuts”, is definitely not to teams like the Brewers and A’s, specifically the A’s) that is still $300,000 more than Soderstrom. That’s a lot of money to these teams, if it weren’t they wouldn’t be arguing over those amounts in arbitration hearings. So to the point of this discussion the Mitchell money most likely does matter to these teams.

I’m fine with being wrong. Maybe the A’s absolute love them both and think they win this trade. I think the Brewers and most everyone else would do that trade immediately without hesitation. I just don’t see that being enough. How about you?

Hilarious you are being condescending.. so what you are saying is Mitchell is just a throw in. That means you think Patrick and Pratt (coming off a down year where he will definitely be lower on top 100 charts, if not already) are enough to get a player with 4 years of control, coming off a great year offensively and is great to elite LF. The other option is you think Mitchell has some redeemable value in a trade (I don’t believe he does). A guy who has only shown glimpses of being able to hit major league pitching, more expensive, (albeit, yes, not much more expensive)older, but is maybe still an elite outfielder. I say maybe elite because his arm probably won’t be what it was anymore. Maybe relax on the condescending question and explanation while being incredibly wrong.