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Whichever rookie QB(s) go in the 1st round this year will be in the 1st year of their contracts, Love will be in the 3rd year of his contract. A player's talent isn't the only thing that determines their value. That cuts both ways, Love has 2 years of NFL experience and would therefore likely be considered more "ready" than most rookie starters.

It was my mindset and I stated that it would be difficult to tag Adams and would require, among other things, a long-term extension from Rodgers to free up salary. It was also my position that if they did tag Adams, it would be with the intent of extending him to a long-term contract, not trading him. IMO that is all pretty much exactly consistent with what has occurred.

I read something a while back from a scout that said Love was better than any QB coming out in the draft this year and it wasn't particularly close. Well, that's definitely not a league consensus because Green Bay isn't getting a 1 for Love and other QBs will go in the 1st this year. Love still hasn't shown much in his 2 years of development. I think if the Packers thought he was better than any QB in the draft this year, they'd have taken a massive trade haul for Rodgers and moved on. The Packers aren't dumb, they know Father Time is undefeated and Rodgers succumbing to him is a matter of when, not if. I don't think they have much confidence in Love, and they'd know him better than anyone. If I'm wrong and they can get a 2 for him, awesome. Take it. I'd still take a 3rd. Anything less and I agree you might as well hold him.

People said the same thing about the Rams 3-4 years ago. They did? I don't recall this at all. I always thought the Rams under McVay had a bright future and some young talent, just needed a QB which they now have. But I could be remembering wrong. Watch the Packers trade Love and take a QB in the first this year, lol.

Well I sure hope they win a SB soon. Because the Packers of '25, '26 and '27, etc are gonna be some realllllly bad teams.

I'd be happy with a 3rd. I don't think anyone is giving a 2nd for Love.

I know we didn't expect MVP level performances the last two years, but giving up a 1st+4th for Love sucks right now any way you slice it when Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman were the next receivers off the board and we desperately needed WR help.

I have very mixed feelings.

I think most people believe that Pete Rose should be reinstated and in the HOF. Cardinal sin it may be, but i think it's fair to question if it should be. Betting on your own team to win a game doesn't compromise the integrity of that game. Betting against your own team? Yes, I can understand. Any officials/referees placing a bet? Yes, I can understand. Any other bet that doesn't compromise an outcome, why do we care?

We are 2 days away from the deadline to use the franchise tag and a lonnnnng ways away from the 20M or so under the cap that we'd need to be to use it.

Awful performance by Jrue.

This is pretty much where I'm at. I guess I'd lean players over owners if I had to pick a side, but at the end of the day I can't really feel emotionally involved for either side. They're both insanely more rich than I'll ever be and so their inability to divide up an enormous pie fairly isn't something I can view much more than comically about. You both suck, figure it out and don't expect any public support. Tell me about the guys in the minors with no union representation and two sides who don't care about them riding busses and making poverty level wages for years just to have a shot when most of them will never make it, and I'll have a much easier time feeling emotionally involved about it.

My totally unqualified theory, Rodgers' preference is to return to Green Bay, but he's intent on doing right by Adams. He doesn't want to be the domino extension/restructure that allows the team to franchise tag Adams if that isn't something Adams is interested in. The team preference is to keep Rodgers, and hang onto Adams this year via the franchise tag, then figure out next year next year. So they're trying to convince Adams that playing for 10M less a year than what he wants on a 1 year deal is a good thing (tough sell). If they can somehow convince him, Rodgers restructures and Adams winds up here in '22 on the tag. If not, Rodgers gets traded, Adams goes with him (likely Denver). Jeudy or Sutton ends up in Green Bay, likely Jeudy.

Personally the travel aspect of pro sports sounds absolutely miserable to me. Can't think of a worse way to spend 9 months especially when 1/2 of it is to Cincinnati, Chicago, St. Louis and Pittsburgh repeatedly. The other truth that is usually ignored in these conversations is that the vast majority of people don't have the work ethic necessary to make it in professional sports but that isn't something people like to hear. They don't have "half the year off" either. For every David Wells there are 100 guys busting their tail year-round to survive and just stay on a roster. The cognitive dissonance between what a fan thinks and what a professional athlete actually has to do to remain a pro athlete in 97% of cases in staggering. But not all that surprising considering 40% of Americans think they can compete at the Olympics. Reminds me of when fans used to say NFL players make $X to "work one day a week." Yeah...OK. The first paragraph is just kind of agree to disagree. I love traveling and like staying in hotels. I can understand the struggle for those who have families, though. I'm going to assume the second paragraph wasn't directed specifically at me. I understand that these guys have to work their tails off to stay in their professions. I'm by no means comparing myself to any professional athlete, but I spent 12 years in the military -- granted, got out of shape but worked my butt off to lose 50 pounds last year and currently run 4 to 5 miles a day 6 days a week to keep it off. I like to think my work ethic is better than most. I can compete in the Olympics, I'll just be last in every event. Seriously though, while it's true that some guys really got to where they are through an insane amount of hard work (Aaron Kampman comes to mind), the vast majority of them have obscenely more talent than any of us will ever have. Even Rudy had no shot of ever competing professionally.

Traveling everywhere, having half the year off of work, partying in a big city every night, hooking up with beautiful women, playing a game for a living and being paid gobs of money for it sounds amazing to me. Unfortunately, I have no athletic talent.

If the salary demands are legitimate, it leads me to believe Rodgers' preference is to start over elsewhere. He knows our situation quite well. Makes it look like an issue of affordability rather than the actual desire to play elsewhere.

LOL ... a Broncos reporter tweeting this out doesn't look suspicious at all ... Move along, people, move along ... What motivation would a Broncos reporter have to fabricate something like that? That would make the Packers less likely to want to deal Rodgers, not more. I don't know that there's anything to it either, but I'm also not willing to totally dismiss it just because we don't like what is being said.

According to NFL insider Benjamin Allbright, the Packers do not believe in the Jordan Love. “Around the league everyone knows GB doesn’t believe in Love. Dealing him now would net a minimal return. Late day 3 pick. He’s not on the block and also isn’t in demand,” he tweeted.

Why is this a both sides issue? The owners locked the players out. It's still almost always a both sides issue, just like it was in '94 when the players striked.

The cynical part of me wants to just see both sides crash and burn. Can half the season and I hope to see massive cuts in attendance and television revenue in the future resulting in an enormously shrunken pie for these idiots to divide up. The lack of urgency is astounding. They did not learn anything in 2020 and they haven't learned anything since then. I thought they learned something after '94, but obviously those lessons have been long forgotten. Baseball bled for years after '94 and it took a long time to repair the damage they did. Guess what, people cared a lot more about baseball in '94 than they do now.

I'm pretty much done lamenting the "what ifs" when someone else wins the Super Bowl. I've felt for probably half of the Super Bowls the last 10 years that the Packers were better than both teams on the field. Yet, those teams were on the field and the Packers were at home watching like they always are. For whatever reason they aren't the same team during the playoffs as they are during the regular season. It is what is. They haven't gotten the job done and we can only pin it on bad luck for so long.

The problem with a 16 team playoff format is that every bit of playoff expansion just makes the regular season less meaningful. Baseball's season is so long and grueling that it really should matter. It mattered a lot when it was just 2 teams from each league playing for it all and even the 4 team per league format was pretty acceptable. The more watered down it gets the less I enjoy the long journey. I consider myself a pretty big Milwaukee Bucks fan and I've barely watched a bit of the 82 game regular season already through most of the season because it just frankly does not matter at all.

According to Evan Drellich of The Athletic, Major League Baseball lawyers said Friday in federal court that minor league players should not be paid during spring training, because they should be considered trainees. “It is the players that obtain the greater benefit from the training opportunities that they are afforded than the clubs, who actually just incur the cost of having to provide that training,” said Elise Bloom of Proskauer Rose, a law firm that is also advising MLB during the current lockout of major league players. Unreal. Drellich adds that the argument was put forth by MLB during it's efforts to dismiss a class-action lawsuit brought forth by minor league players nearly a decade ago. A jury trial in the case is set to begin June 1. Minor leaguers, who are not part of the Major League Baseball Players Association, have seen pay increases the last few years, but those expansions haven't gone nearly far enough. https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/baseball/mlb/player/14398/rob-manfred Yeah, this guy is really likeable.

In all but one of his championship seasons, winning the championship meant either winning 1 or 2 games. In a bunch of them, you were the champion of 14 teams. To be fair, if Rodgers could just win 2 damn games, he'd be playing in the Super Bowl most years.

The further away the eras, the more any comparison just feels like apples to oranges. Imagine trying to compare Clayton Kershaw and Cy Young. It just feels like you can't.