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Is it even an absolute certainty that they'll be able to trade him for compensation after '22? It just seemed possible the way things are written, especially with Schefter saying that Rodgers will "get to choose" where he plays in '22, that there is a sort of handshake agreement for Rodgers to simply be released after '21 if he still wants out rather than be traded. Or it could mean that he'll be traded, but he'll have say in the destination. I really don't know. In any event, I can't think of any precedent of a 38 year old QB returning significant trade compensation.
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Please define "badly" I, for one, am happy that there is now a logical endpoint to all this crap. It could end very badly. Like, disappointing 8-8 season, terrible clubhouse chemistry, constant internal strife and distractions, Rodgers booed frequently on his home field, mockery from opposing teams and fans, etc. Or it could be a non-issue the whole season. I really don't know. But I wouldn't assume that everything is great now.
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Tough to imagine any scenario in which Rodgers returns to the Packers in '22. If they go on to win the Super Bowl they accomplished what he wanted and he moves on. If they lose the NFC Championship then we've all seen that story before and it's the last straw and he moves on. If 2021 is a disaster season he definitely moves on. The only possibility I could possibly see of a '22 return, and this is highly remote: Packers have an amazing year, win the Super Bowl, Adams is either signed or tagged and Rodgers and Adams want to try to run it back one more time in '22. That's about the only way I can see.
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I don't know why, but I feel like the Brewers are going to land Max Scherzer for some reason.
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Adams will almost certainly be gone after '21 as well. The cold reality is we are looking at a rebuild in '22. We can only hope, if Love is the real deal, that it is only a soft rebuild. If he isn't, there are some painful years ahead until we find our franchise QB.
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We shall see. There are plenty of desperate GMs out there. It would definitely be in the Packers best interests to try to align a trade partner with somewhere that Rodgers wants to be. Such a team probably would probably be able and willing to extend Rodgers immediately with a trade which nullifies the impact of only getting him for a year in trade. This is of course assuming his play doesn't drop off much from 2020, which is far from a given. There are a lot of factors that could turn the haul we were seeking in May into just the conditional high round pick that we got for Favre.
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I don't think his wanting to be here matters one bit. It's in his best interests to play as well as he can. He is probably most frustrated at exactly this lack of power he has. I expect that he'll play as well as he can, but I also expect that a lot of his teammates probably don't love this arrangement and it has the potential to be a clubhouse distraction.
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Basically the agreement is in place that they are getting rid of the '23 season on the deal and they're going to move on after '21. This is why I wanted to trade him back in May. If anyone thinks they're going to get nearly as much after this season with 1 year left on his deal when we have no leverage left and he may not be coming off an MVP season, I think you are very mistaken. But we'll get one last shot to win the Super Bowl with a guy that doesn't want to be here I guess.
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Is Hosmer of any interest at all? He's not great, but he's not an albatross and the Padres would probably basically give him away. Gets on base okay and you might see some improvement in the power numbers going from San Diego to Milwaukee. He's overpaid at 3/39 for 3 more seasons, so you'd need San Diego to eat a chunk or take a guy like JBJ back, I'd think.
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Adam Frazier Traded to Padres (11/22 Update Dealt to Mariners)
adambr2 replied to Eye Black's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
With Frazier you're getting 1+ years of a pretty average career player who is having what is most likely an unsustainably great season. I think the expectations for what his trade value should have been are being considerably overestimated. -
Disappointing to lose, but White Sox are very good. A sweep was never a highly likely outcome.
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Peralta was sitting at 90-91 a few years ago. Some guys add velocity as they're developing. He was also exclusively pitching as a starter. by that tone based on Freddy's age and where Hendriks sat Freddy will be throwing 102MPH when his contract ends. Fangraphs shows his increase in velocity at age 26 and it's increased every season since at age of 32. Freddy recently turned 25. Just find it odd that Hendriks who I get move to bullpen adds 3MPH, but then adds 2 more MPH after turning 30 still pitching in the bullpen. 9MPH more velocity since his first 3 seasons. Are you comparing that across the board with other increases in velocity as well? They've also changed the way they've measured pitch speed in the last 9 years too. I don't think there's anything to see here. Liam is just good.
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Peralta was sitting at 90-91 a few years ago. Some guys add velocity as they're developing. He was also exclusively pitching as a starter.
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Narvaez is not getting it done lately.
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Brewcrewin07 - as frustrating as it is when you want to see your team do something and they don't do it, it seems like a good time to point out that said team is 17 games over .500 doing it their way, good for 3rd in the NL and the best record by far in their division. They've been in the playoffs three consecutive seasons now. I know you probably won't admit it, but the guys running the show are probably doing a better job than you (or I) could do.
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This is such an embellishment. Who here wouldn't love it if they added a big bat to the lineup? Basically everyone would. Wanting them to add some good help, while being disciplined enough not to say "who cares what it costs in prospects", so you don't end up giving up the next Woodruff or Burnes for short-term help, is a balancing act. Who says it has to be short term help?? It doesn't have to be a rental you know? I mean the Padres just acquired Frazier, and he's not a rental. Adam Frazier has just over 10 career WAR, is having a career season and outperforming his career averages by a ridiculous margin, and he's controlled for 8 more baseball months. Is that the kind of player you want to give up the next Woodruff or Burnes for?
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This is such an embellishment. Who here wouldn't love it if they added a big bat to the lineup? Basically everyone would. Wanting them to add some good help, while being disciplined enough not to say "who cares what it costs in prospects", so you don't end up giving up the next Woodruff or Burnes for short-term help, is a balancing act.
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You suck, Yelich.
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Well that was a very bad AB by Wong.
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This umpire is bad at his job. That pitch was a strike in 2 ways.
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That pitch was a strike, but strike 1 wasn't. Lynn doesn't need help, particularly against a pitcher.
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It happens. Every GM makes some bad mistakes that don't work out. Stearns is no different.
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If they put him on waivers, nobody would claim him. Nobody's taking on the contract of a .550 OPS CFer, let alone trading for him. Well no one would claim him, absolutely right. But that doesn't make a trade impossible. You'd have to eat substantial salary and hope an OF needy team thinks they're buying low. Picking up the rest of his salary for 2021 might be worth it if the trading team assumes responsibility for the 2022 option, for example.
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Lol. Adames is just such a likeable dude.
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Not pleased with his performance. Also not willing to give up on him. I don't think you are either, though. I mean no I'm not, but it's not like we have a choice.