I assume you mean Knebel’s “poor performance” was 2018 where he had a FIP of 3.05, WHIP of 1.08 and had a K/9 rate of 14.3. Unless you’re knocking his 2020 numbers for literally rehabbing from TJ surgery at the major league level. Also worth mentioning, Jimmy Nelson blew out his shoulder in two places during his breakout year. His numbers before 2017 were pedestrian: FIP of 4.44 and WHIP of 1.39. Despite his suffering an unprecedented shoulder injury, they threw 7.5 million dollars away retaining his rights and got bupkis. That’s the head scratcher as referenced above No, I was talking about his 2020 numbers - yes there is additional context to it with regards to his injury but there is no denying he had a poor year. I’ll still disagree that it was head-scratching for the Brewers to invest the money in Jimmy Nelson over two years pre-COVID vs investing the money in Knebel - especially factoring losing a years worth of revenue. They saw TOR potential with Nelson vs high end reliever - one is easier to potentially replace than the other. There is no denying that I’d rather have Knebel on the roster than not but he isn’t without his risks. Jumping on Stearns that this was a huge mistake after 3.1 innings seems premature and using the money paid to Jimmy Nelson over two years, in a completely different financial environment, as part of that is a stretch to me. But it was a mistake. You can rationalize it every which way but the fact of the matter is they got it wrong with Jimmy and it looks like they're going to get it wrong again with Corey. The TOR potential was out the window when the shoulder injury occurred. I guess if you were talking about Jacob DeGrom I'd be willing to see if a huge comeback occurred, but we're overrating pre-injury Jimmy a bit. His TOR track record wasn't all that established and he was still a bit of an unknown. Also the injuries are apples to oranges, this was a serious shoulder injury and always a much longer shot to come back from than TJ. I don't expect the consultations between our medical staff and our FO to result in crystal ball like results but getting it wrong repeatedly on post-injury projections hurts us for sure. The Jimmy Nelson situation was really handled poorly. I guess the silver lining is I'm glad Jimmy still made some money but it was basically charity on our part. There was a time in 2019 when Jimmy could still be optioned to the minors. Rather than see what we had with him in the minors first we called him up long enough for his service time to hit 5 years, then not only were we stuck with a really unproductive player that we already had dead money sunk into, he could no longer be optioned.