adambr2

Can I ask why? I figure it isn't my money, he certainly is far better than our existing 3B options and makes us a better team in a division we can win. Hadn't really seen much of the anti-Turner camp so I was just honestly curious on your reasoning.

Rodgers may not have the best WR room in the NFL, but the investments the Packers have made on the guys in front of him are second to none. Russell Wilson would kill for an offensive line like the Packers have when healthy. We've spent a lot of money and draft capital to keep him off his butt, and I hope he realizes that.

I am assuming that I am a big idiot, because no matter how many times someone explains Bitcoin to me, I still don't really get it.

I find it hilarious that: 1) MLB wants the DH 2) The MLBPA wants the DH 3) We aren't going to have the DH, because both sides want to use it as a bargaining chip. Clearly, so much has been learned from last year.

Braun honestly isn't good enough or versatile enough at this point in his career to just skip spring training, show up on opening day and expect a roster spot to be saved for him. So say you and your subjective analysis. The facts are the last three years Braun’s slash line is .265/.323/.488 with an OPS+ of 110. 50 homeruns in 305 games. He’s still an above average slugger, and if you’ve followed the Brewers closely in the last 13 years you’d know it’s been ages since Braun played much in spring training anyways. If this is end for Braun, I’m sad to see him go. Certainly the best player they’ve had in the last 25 years, and arguably the best player they ever had. Uh yeah, it's all subjective, didn't know I had to disclaim it with "in my opinion". A 110 OPS+ doesn't get you far when you're 37 and don't offer much else in terms of defensive or versatility. Brad Miller is averaging a 114 OPS+ the last 3 years and he's still looking for work despite being a heck of a lot more versatile than Braun. Fact of the matter is they still have to plan their roster and look to the 2021 season and they can't just let Braun decide in early April whether or not he plans to return while still guaranteeing that he's a part of their plans. Maybe they could if there was a DH this year, but the truth is that really limits the extent to which they need him. I doubt that the Brewers have a ton of interest in bringing Braun back for another year, but if they do, it certainly will be on the Brewers' terms as far as a salary goes. And Braun plays every spring training when healthy. It may not be more than 25 PAs or so and it may not be early on but he plays. Pretty much the same way it goes for every veteran particularly one that requires a great deal of load management. Obviously Braun has certainly been one of the all-time Brewer greats but as with anyone the time comes for it to end. And I believe both sides believe that said time has come.

Braun honestly isn't good enough or versatile enough at this point in his career to just skip spring training, show up on opening day and expect a roster spot to be saved for him.

With the word on no DH this year and the lack of interest from Braun, I think he has played his last inning for the Brewers.

I think this is it. I think it actually plays to Milwaukee's favor, as LA really has no need to do so. The Dodgers are smartly run, and the smart play for them is to go with a guy like Rios rather than paying gobs of money to Turner. But if the Mets are in play, they also have far less financial constraints and seem far more likely to me than the Dodgers to go 3 years on Turner if it requires it just to get it done.

I don't think the Dodgers need to scramble to find a way to keep Turner honestly. They have money and Turner wants to be there. I think it's entirely possible that the Dodgers' interest in keeping him is only lukewarm and they might just be sticking to a 1 year offer and Turner is trying to at least squeeze out a decent 2 year deal out of them before signing. It's a tough situation for the Brewers. Not only are they competing with LA's money but the guy they want is already prone to stay in LA so they have to really get above and beyond whatever LA is offering. I can understand the interest in Turner, but it's hard to know if he even really wants to be here.

I agree it's entirely possible that Rodgers is already listened to with an open mind and really he deserves that, but only that as far as personnel decisions go. I would hope there is open 2 way communication and the team understands that Rodgers probably knows this offense better than anyone and deserves input, and Rodgers understands that sometimes the input he has isn't going to be granted and isn't always practical in the big scope of things. I don't know what Rodgers' cap hit has to do with anything though. If you're an above average starting QB and your contract is up you're going to get a massive payday no matter who you are. That's just how it goes these days especially at that position.

Jrue has COVID, so he's probably going to miss a few games besides yesterday's.

He had better have a really, really great camp to be a decent option for anything at the MLB level because he was really, really bad in his last full season. Hope he can do it of course.

I would have been so excited about this in like 2014. He's looked done for years. Oh well, local guy, take a shot and see what's left. Why not.

Definitely starting to come together. Denver is a quality win.

In the Chiefs' defense the circumstances were far different. There was plenty of time left in the half and they still had to defend the entire field whereas the Packers just needed to make a tackle in the field of play to guarantee that the half ended right there. My dad and I were laughing about the similarities of the play, though. Of course Breeland did the right thing and just tackled the guy. King was too slow to even do that.

I'm not stressing about the cap. I'm saying it is what it is and I don't think there's a ton of flexibility to be had. Ken Ingalls is a good resource to follow on Twitter and really breaks this stuff down in a helpful way. I'm not saying it's completely impossible but I'm not sure where the money is going to come from and adding anybody will take sacrifices elsewhere. And I don't think offering Jones top 5 RB money tells us much. Top 5 RB money is average starter money at most other positions.

I disagree wholeheartedly. I think they'll make several significant additions this offseason. Because if they go status quo again, Gute may soon find himself on the hot seat. It's time for this team to finally go big or go home. How? They have a $30M cap problem assuming the cap is about $180M and they can't just restructure it all away.

I just don't see much possibility of any significant additions. We're crunched to get under the cap as it is. Maybe with some major restructuring, but we're going to lose a few pieces on the way. I'm hoping we can find some guys in the early rounds who make an instant impact this year like the Bucs did rather than drafting for the future as we did in 2020.

Tampa is great, but they lost 5 games this year. It's not like they were infallible. They gelled and got hot at the right time. Sometimes, that's all it takes. Congratulations to them. We'll never know if we would have won today because we didn't make enough plays two weeks ago to get the opportunity. Maybe next year.

So happy for that Brady guy though.

We could have beaten this Chiefs team. Too bad.

I will never understand why trading within the division is such a big taboo thing. If it's your best deal and you really like the deal, why wouldn't you do it? If you're worried about helping your division rival, don't you believe they're also helping you if you're doing the deal in the first place?

It's just pointless to try to project 2023 this far out. So much can happen between now and then. Acquisitions will be made, trades will be done, more draft picks will be made, and guys that probably aren't even on our radar right now will surprise and perhaps emerge as our new top prospects. But as marked suggested they most likely aren't trading him. I don't think it's as definite as he makes it sound but I think they'd have to be blown away and the package I suggested does not do that.

My point, which I've made several times now, is saying that he had Bashaud Breeland on his team, a player that is on a SB team, so he obviously had some talent, isn't the strongest argument for the talent he had in Washington. Coming off that big Super Bowl Win the Chiefs signed Breeland for 1 year and 3 million. Further proof that he's not exactly viewed as a core piece on a defensive unit. I don't see how the Packers offense is in any way relevant to the defensive talent that Barry had 5 years ago in Washington. It IS directly relevant to Breeland getting his ring however. Yet he continued to be a core piece on a defensive unit in 2020. I just don't think a contract is necessarily a great indicator of talent. You know as well as I do that other things than talent go into a contract and Breeland has had his fair share of off the field issues that certainly factor into his market. To the point on Barry, I think it's fair to say this will definitely be his most talented unit and it's fair to wait and see what he can do with that talent. But we also assumed talent alone would be enough with Pettine, and it wasn't. I wanted a DC hire who I felt could get the most schematically out of our talent, and not just have to rely on our talent alone. I'm sure this is unfair but after Shawn Mennenga turned out to be such a huge whiff I am a little more skeptical than I otherwise would be about his next handpicked guy.

I guess I assumed when you said "replacement level DB at his best" I was assuming you meant a 4th or 5th corner who was borderline rosterable and I disagreed with that and think he's been quite a bit better than that at his best. That's all. My mistake if that's not what you were saying.