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Gio is just not much fun to watch pitch. He's constantly working behind in the count. When he misses, he misses bad and it always feels like he's on the verge of giving up a big inning.

Please tell me we aren't going to watch the Cubs shock the Cardinals in St Louis this series and not be able to take advantage against the Rockies.

Trevor Story without fail just seems to kill us every time.

Interview with Flaherty getting a bit awkward the harder Wainwright keeps getting hit.

I don’t think there is a player in baseball that I dislike more than Molina. I can't for the life of me understand why the guy is so "beloved" in St. Louis. I'm sure if he was a Brewer we'd love him and all that but I sure have a tough time seeing it. I find him to be completely insufferable.

Benches cleared in St Louis but nothing really happened. Yadi got barely nicked by a pitch from Hamels and they appeared to exchange words but not sure what happened beyond that.

92, I was going to point out that on September 16th, you told us you don't like Davies and literally said "Zach Davies is horrible", but then I noticed on the exact same day you said Davies has been fantastic since September 1st and anything before that doesn't matter. I've got to hand it to you, you cover your bases thoroughly for almost everything. You can take nearly any result of any situation and find a way to say "See? I was right." If Black had given us two scoreless innings and struck out 5 yesterday, I guarantee we would have heard, "I was talking about Ray Black's 'unhittable stuff' weeks ago and no one wanted to believe me"

You're using hindsight to attack the one time in weeks when not allowing that SP a 3rd trip through backfired. And that's not even factoring in the chance to tack on runs when Davies was PH for. No I’m not using hindsight. At the time he took out Davies the % is ~ 20% to score. Right? We all know 3 other facts: Davies has controlled the zone and the Rockies lineup with less than 70 pitches thrown. And, Black with his history( think of the last time he pitched with us up by a run > Cardinals debacle)cannot. Then With not wanting to use Suter Hader Pomeranz if possible because of use, we now know we’ll have to cover at a minimum 4 innings. When he pinch hit, I didn’t like the move, but i thought Peralta would be in to pitch and not black, not after what he did in St. Louis, never in a million years did I think Ray Black. Stop with The hindsight talk, not when most of us that were watching the game and seen Ray black pitching the sixth in a one run game, all had the same thought > ugh. No hindsight. Real time shock at what was transpiring. This coming from someone who doesn’t need to be told we would be where we are without his superlative use of the bullpen all month. Back before this run started I predicted it, adamantly defended it happening, jousting with many doubters daily. I knew Counsell was going to lead this team to the playoffs and especially this bullpen to dominance. But when he’s wrong with the most important move of the year, I’m calling him out, unlike the reporters that have to get along with him. But you said no such thing until after the fact, you weren't here questioning it ahead of time. Which would be excusable except for the other facts that you have repeatedly called Davies worthless junk (paraphrasing), and repeatedly referred to Black as having "unhittable stuff" (not paraphrasing). It's just a little convenient that all of the sudden you are patting Davies on the back for controlling the zone and maintaining you 100% wanted Counsell to keep riding him rather than turning to MLBs "best" bullpen.

Down 15 you still need 8 + 7 to tie so you're going to need a 2 at some point anyway, it doesn't really matter when it is. Personally I always disagreed with the norm on that and would prefer to take it after TD #1 so I know right away if I need 1 more score or 2. There's no statistical advantage to waiting. I just don't agree with that strategy. The goal, if you are trailing in a game, is to eliminate a possession on every score if possible, especially this late in the game. Northwestern willingly chose not to do that in not electing to kick the extra point. But you don't *know* that 8 is a one possession game, it is still predicated on whether or not you can convert the 2. It does not matter whether you fail on the first touchdown or fail on the 2nd, if you fail to convert your 2 point conversion, 15 points is still a 3 possession game.

Down 15 you still need 8 + 7 to tie so you're going to need a 2 at some point anyway, it doesn't really matter when it is. Personally I always disagreed with the norm on that and would prefer to take it after TD #1 so I know right away if I need 1 more score or 2. There's no statistical advantage to waiting.

Didn't we just go like 13-2 without Christian Yelich?

Well we learned who shouldn't be on the playoff roster tonight, so that helps.

Arcia really needed to show better patience there. A walk and he'd have gotten the tying run to the plate and he might have gotten it. His run meant nothing.

Treego, you're overreacting. Black didn't get the job done, but Albers whose name you threw out there is no better of an option lately, so that doesn't make any sense other than just being emotional. You can't chew up 4-5 innings with the same 3 guys every night. Yeah, it sucks, but they were overdue for some bad outings. Hopefully they get them all out of the way tonight.

We have not done our part tonight for sure, but Ian Happ has certainly done his.

When you make a trade with Tampa Bay, you've probably already lost.

No one said that. Calling it over and done with in a 1-0 game and 3-2 game was annoying, and dumb. That it's now 8-2 doesn't change that. Yeah I missed that part of it.

People in this thread were calling this game a loss when it was 2-3... That was just plain stupid. Down 2-8, I get it, down 2-3, the way this team has played the last 20 games, was just asinine. Ah, yeah that makes sense then. All I was saying is that if you're 2 games down with 2 to go it's probably best to just concentrate on what you need to do to win the Wild Card game and if anything better happens along the way, great.

Guys, assuming we don't come back and the Cubs don't win, the people calling to plan on playing in Washington on Tuesday are not saying anything wrong or ridiculous. 2 down with 2 to go is just not likely going to happen from either the Cards or Nats much less needing to win both ourselves. It's not like you're going to play to lose the next two games, but there's nothing wrong with resting up everyone you want to be available for Tuesday and just getting some innings out of Faria, Burnes, etc. Going all out for something that probably has a 10% chance of happening anyway is a shortsighted move. Just play to win on Tuesday.

100 MPH tends to get you a roster spot. That's really not how postseason roster decisions are made.

Black is playing himself out of a possible postseason roster spot most likely.

That's some good research, but most voters won't care about 90% of it. Most voters won't even dig into the monthly splits. They'll see how tight the statistical race was and use the best player on the best team as a tiebreaker, you can almost count on it. There simply isn't enough of a statistical gap for Yelich to garner too much of the "undecided" vote. I actually think Yelich has more of a shot than I did two weeks ago, but ultimately I'd put it at about 80% Bellinger/20% Yelich with Rendon having no real shot. Just too many of the tiebreaker factors that voters like to use working against him.

Facts. After reading this post, case closed. For whatever reason, Yelich kept this team from reaching its full potential, especially the bullpen. I don't think that is quite what he was trying to say.

I know nothing about the Dolphins, but time to explore the trade market? They'll trade anything with a pulse. Although their run D is even more horrific than ours, so maybe not. Jets?

He's still started at least 12 games in every year except 2017 dating back from the lost season from the ACL injury in 2013. I don't know what more you can ask from a 10 year veteran with 2 bum knees.