I probably wouldn't buy the Torpedo again, but the standard green label Sierra Nevada has always been one of my favorites. It's kind of a fall back beer for me. I used to live with a guy who drank way to much Pyramid Hefeweizen so I grew somewhat attached to it. As far as domestic mass distributed hefeweizens, I think Pyramid is one of the best, although not really in the same catagory as any Bavarian hefeweizen. I never was too fond of the Pyrmaid IPA though.