Awesome posts in this thread, RyDogg. I'm with you 100%. And apart from points like yours, here's one additional. The way I look at it, strikeouts are simply a complete failure. In baseball, it is just the ultimate offensive breakdown. When the object of the game is to safely put the ball in play, you have to be happier with someone who does half the job -- puts the ball in play for an out -- than someone who can't even put the ball in play to begin with. Even if the outcome is worse (2 outs instead of 1), how can you not want to see contact made with the ball ending up in fair territory? How can you only care about the "outcome" rather than what our players are actually doing on the field? A double-play is a disappointment -- and possibly just a bad break if the ball is hit hard -- but a strikeout is a total failure from the batter's perspective. I guess I just don't want to see players on the Brewers go up and whiff. Yes, there has to be some strikeouts, but this many? I want them to take the stick in their hand and use it to knock the ball in play. To look like they know what they're doing. As hitters for my favorite team, it's what I want to see. I really don't even care what the sitation is ... bases loaded, bases empty, 0 outs, 2 outs. I don't like witnessing Brewer players go up to the plate and come away from the at bat contributing nothing. Obviously, if someone strikes out with a runner on first and less than two outs, I'm likely turn to someone and say, "At least it wasn't a DP". But I'm sortof fooling myself. I want to see the hitter go up there and HIT. Go up there and show the signs of talent and ability to smack the ball WHEN WE NEED IT. The mountain of K's in crucial situations today was painful and pathetic to watch. Not because it's an isolated incident, but because we seem to keep seeing it over and over again.