I have a draining feeling that when the Blue Jays and Phillies come to town, a little piece of my soul will die and we'll have to resurrect this thread. Yeah -- I agree. I think Jenks is going to handled poorly. Best booing ever = booing the throw to first base to keep a runner close. You are probably right -- the other time may be when the opposing manager goes out to hook a pitcher that is getting clubbed. I'm sorry, but some of you seem to be of the belief that everyone attending a baseball game should behave like the game is an upper crust social event, and politely clap for everything. I don't think anyone here thinks this.... Baseball is a blue collar, working class kind of game. You're there in a stadium with thousands of other people, drinking beer and eating brats and nachos. And Packer football isn't? -- It seems there is a lot more booing at MP than at Lambeau. Like it or not, most of the people attending the game don't know or care what OPS or WHIP are, and many only go to one or two games a year. They're "casual fans", and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't think generalizations like this serve us well. It's like when stat-heads claim to be more objective than other people just because they know how to navigate a spreadsheet. Objectivity and Sabreitude are 2 independent characteristics, just like public behavior/booing is. Overall we could probably agree that the BF.net "cares about OPS an WHIP" -- however we are clearly divided on booing -- so lets not hang this on the new or "casual" fans. I think that most of the bump in attendance is coming from people like my mother in law, who are now having their reunions and family gatherings at MP and couldn't distinguish Prince Fielder from Prince Charles -- they primarily are rediscovering MP as a fun place to be in the summer and pretty much want drink a few beers and laugh. I have no problem with Milwaukee getting the reputation of having rowdy fans. I've heard Milwaukee called the Midwest's Philadelphia, I can't think of a positive attribute of being called the "Midwest's Philly" I'd rather have opposing teams hate the thought of playing at Miller Park, than thinking "Yeah, their fans don't care about anything, and we're going to roll over their team anyway." In a large part this thread discusses the "passion" related in booing the Brewers because you are upset. If anything I think opposing teams will realize that if Turnbow walks a batter, the fans will turn on him. I don't think any players hate the thought of the Brewer fanbase booing their own, they probably find it funny. I'd rather be at Miller Park with 30,000 fans, some of whom are booing, than sitting in a sedate group of 10,000 or so that seem like they're ready for a nap. I'd rather the fans get behind their team.