The 'real' number is probably closer to 10-15. I doubt that the real number is over 5. I think any study that shows 25-30 run to be anywhere near the projected production has fundamental flaws in it. I think the wording from the above excerpt indicates that the 25-30 number is a high-end estimate I disagree. I see nowhere it indicates that 25-30 runs is a "high-end" estimate -- In fact when a person presents me a range like 25-30 -- I take that to mean 25 is the low and 30 is the high. but I don't think it's really fair to make light of this situation without actually acknowledging that this is not "Yost's stat guy" Ultimately my skepticism lies in Yost's (in)ability to process any sort of information, but I am not willing to assume that Dave Lawson is entirely objective about this, or pretend to know how his information came around. If the lineup tinkering is worth one win or more over the course of a season, it's no wonder Yost is down. But then we come back to Russ's point of why bat the pitcher 9th when you are going to turn around and bat Cameron 2nd. That makes no sense to me, and ultimately I think any advantage gained by batting the pitcher 8th is washed out by batting your 6th best hitter 2nd. Honestly, I think the less tinkering, managing, talking, or interacting Ned does the better the Brewers will be -- and I am not trying to be cute about this. Whenever Ned delves into stats we have Mench batting against RHP or pitching changes made because of fielding pct.