Fatter than Joey
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New rule in WBC -- not a fan
Fatter than Joey replied to InsomniacInkRoss's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I wouldn't mind if they did this in the majors, (for regular season games), starting with the 11th inning, or something along those lines. There would probably be some benefits to doing this. I would not be altogether opposed -- scoring would be a nightmare. -
How can the World Series be as big as the Super Bowl?
Fatter than Joey replied to adamb100's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
A bunch of male erotic testastrone touching braniacs Your spelling needs work. skill and beauty every time. You saw what Santonio Holmes and James Harrison did? I am not sure I ever seen anything more skilled on a baseball diamond, or beautiful for that matter. -
New rule in WBC -- not a fan
Fatter than Joey replied to InsomniacInkRoss's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Yeah, as FTJ stated, this is similar to what a lot of youth baseball tournaments do. Generally, it's referred to as the "California tie-breaker rule". However, instead of guys on 1st and 2nd, each team starts their half inning with a runner on 2nd. I've seen it where they start the inning with the bases loaded, it varies. It is sort of silly -- but those pitch counts in youth tourneys are extremely rigid -- and probably for good reason. The runner is usually the player that made the last out in the previous inning. Right, this is more correct than what I said, generally it is the players that made the last outs, or may have been on base prior to the inning ending. -
That statement has some interesting connotations to it. Indeed -- DM also runs the risk of sitting on him until he no longer has any trade value, which is I think, the implied struggle for DM. I have no problem trading Weeks and then seeing him do well with another team (like Overbay), as long as you get good value for him again like we did with Overbay (Bush). I am not the biggest Dave Bush fan, but we certainly needed the pitching rotation depth. The difference of course, and I think what ultimately makes Weeks's situation hard for Melvin -- is that there is no 2b in our system pushing Weeks. I believe that if we had a somewhat decent 2b in AAA, DM would trade Weeks yesterday.
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How can the World Series be as big as the Super Bowl?
Fatter than Joey replied to adamb100's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
World Series becomes as popular as the Super Bowl when the collective intelligence level of the country rises by about 50 points. Baseball is a thinking mans game. It takes intelligence and patience to enjoy and understand. Americans love football because it doesnt take a lot of thought to like it. I would absolutely disagree with this. Football is a much more complicated sport. Understanding what is happening in a FB game is probably harder to do for any fan dumb or smart. Let's not pretend that baseball doesn't have its "casual fans", as this site rips on them throughout the year -- football just happens to have a lot more of them. For a lot of people it takes beer to enjoy baseball. Football is more entertaining to more people. It is as simple as that. -
New rule in WBC -- not a fan
Fatter than Joey replied to InsomniacInkRoss's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Extra innings starting with the 13th will begin with 2 runners on base. This is how little league tourneys are often played.... and the point is to maintain pitch counts and preserve arms. Usually the first 2 guys up in the inning go to 1st and and 2nd. I understand that the integrity of the game isn't maintained -- but you don't want to have pitching injuries at the WBC. -
Not as good as Dwight knowing how to play Supertramp on his keyboard, but still funny. You mean Darnell... Oscar falling through the ceiling was great. Dwight harvesting organs was pretty funny as well.... I thought the whole JB thing was weird, not unfunny (the "don't hit the reverse button" was good stuff) -- but like Toby said out of place.
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Stanley's heart attacked him.
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I would have felt bad if BF.net would have lost to forums like "The Mamas Online".
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Awesome -- Good luck with the pictures!
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I'm in again. Let's hold that lead.
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Paul and Kimberly -- are now in 3rd place. This is unacceptable.
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And with all the work FTJ is putting in collecting beers, I think he deserves a beer. So he can have mine for this one Thanks man -- I appreciate someone taking note of my Herculean effort. Todd and Mandy probably have another fan forum supporting their union. It's probably a Cub or Bears fan page. Apparently BF.net is content to roll over on this. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? I voted again.
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I voted again.
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Sheets watch (closed in deference to new thread)
Fatter than Joey replied to yoshii8's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
If he makes it clear that he is planning on doing that, I think the Brewers almost have to offer him a contract. The Brewers have offered him a contract -- I really think he doesn't want to play here for whatever reason. Unless, does the team that sign him lose a first/second round pick the next season? Would the Brewers at least get a compensation pick the next year? No. Of course what is good for the goose is good for the gander -- we could sign players as well w/o forfeiting our picks. -
As a speedy guy who hits a lot of groundballs he could realistically sit around .320. He isn't going to live at .340 though. Agreed.
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Problem with that assertion FTJ, is you are then saying that Theriot is going to hit a lot more HR. I used a generic player to show that a drop in BABIP does not automatically mean a drop in BA. That's all. If BABIP is unrelated to BA, then please explain (in your opinion) what the predominant factor is that is causing a drop in Theriot's BA in the projection systems. I never said they are unrelated -- I showed that a drop in BABip does not necessarily correspond with a drop in BA, this is what Straw contended. Obviously they use a lot of the same data. BA and BABIP are absolutely related. Right -- I said "they are not related as you (Straw) claim" -- not that they aren't related at all -- only not in the same manner Straw is claiming. Indeed. Theriot has never hit more than 3 homeruns in a season in any of his 8 professional seasons at the major or minor league level. I think it's safe to say that a jump in Theriot's HR totals is unlikely. I chose 3 HRs, but it was arbitrary -- I could have chosen 1 HR or 10 HR for my example and supported the same conclusion. I think it's safe to say that a jump in Theriot's HR totals is unlikely. Sure -- He is bound to hit more 2bs than he did in 2008 though.
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You haven't explained at all how you got to that .725 OPS, other than just taking a projection system as gospel without looking at how they got to their numbers I think those people are smarter than you and I, and have put a lot more effort into their projections. the fact that he had a more average BABIP Again, you cannot compare Theriot's BABIP to a "league average".
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And why is his BA lower FTJ? He has a lower BA, because his BABIP is lower, no? absolutely not. A player gets 30 hits in 100 ABs -- 0 HRs, 0Ks, 0 SFs -- At this point BA = .300, BABIP = .300 The next 100 ABS -- The player gets 30 hits with 3 HRS, 0Ks, 0SFs -- BA = .300, BABIP = .278 BABIP drops, BA doesn't -- BABIP and BA are not related as you claim. I guess I don't know what else I can say. I feel like despite all my efforts at clarity, I'm not being clear enough to break it down in a way you can understand what I'm saying. I understand what you are saying -- I think you are wrong.
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Yes, so what is the biggest thing that is causing him to drop in his OPS for next season in the projections? His BA. Look, I don't know how to explain this to you any better but I am not merely looking at BABIP and comparing it to runs Look, I think your methodology is very flawed -- and you are using BABip to overstate your case. I can agree with you that Theriot is probably not going to repeat a .746 OPS -- however I think your methodology that takes you to .675 is wanting. I think he will be worse, but only the difference from .746 OPS to .725 OPS -- that correlates to runs better, and gives a more accurate picture of what to expect, or not to expect from Theriot.
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Of course not. That's why I said, "baseball players as a group", which you left out Then why make such a general and vague statement when we are talking about a specific player While 30 is right at the edge of being a prime year or not, it's certainly reasonable to expect a bit of decline by that age. Theriot is 29 -- and with regards to power and HRs -- players peak around 28-29
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My wife will not be attending the beer party.
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I don't think 30 is really viewed as a prime-aged season anymore, and if it is, it's at or near the end of that spectrum. Sure it is: A's GM Billy Beane, defines a player's prime as 26 to 31 years of age It's not as if all players peak at 27, and decrease and increase equally. -- and Theriot will be 29. So are you saying you expect him to make huge gains in slugging this year like some of the projections claim? I think he do better than 19 2bs and 1 HR in 580 ABS -- yes for sure I think that. So it's likely a downgrade for the Cubs, the only question is how big of a downgrade? Agreed -- I think every OPS projection has him slipping in 2009. -- I think though OPS comparisons give you a much better idea of how much -- I think the BABip difference exaggerates things. OPS correlates very well to runs -- BABIP does not.
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Theriot will be 29 all season.
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So most people going on 30 have an increase of power? I don't think that they decrease. Generally players are defined to be in their prime when they are 30.
