I work for one of the biggest union companies in the US, and every single bit of those 2 posts simply isn't true anymore. Foreign car companies all have plants in the US to directly complete with American automobile manufactures, like it or not they provide jobs and help bolster local economies the same as US automobile manufucturers. Furthermore, the US doesn't produce nearly enough goods to meet the comsumption of it's own population, this country comsumes more product than it produces, therefore their will always be a reliance on foreign products. The union model has been outdated for nearly 30 years, especially as the world progresses towards a global economy. With the rising cost of health care in this country companies simply cannot afford to get their people hurt anymore, it's too expensive... the high wages union members earned were fine when American businesses were competing against each other, but again in a global economy the union model doesn't exist around the world, foreign companies can produce the same product much cheaper than a American company can. In order to compete globally, companies are forced to lower their manufacturing costs. Once one company in an industry moves production overseas, pretty much every other company in the industry is forced to follow suit. I was at one of the larger farm implements producers in the state last year. While I was working on the computer system we started talking about manufacturing, and it turns out that the company buys the raw ore in the US, ships it to China for processing, then pays to ship the steel back here to the US to assemble the products. They've been able to grow their business by keeping their product very competitive price wise, which led to more jobs here in WI, but that doesn't do anything for jobs in the American Steel industry. Unions hung their hat on the buy American strategy, and it's never really worked, and it never will. Unfortunately the products we make are no longer the highest quality products out there. Also, foreign manufactures started producing goods right here in the US to directly combat that campaign. Slam the Japenese all you want, but the workers over there actually care about the quality of the product they produce. It's fair to say that in this country, the employee is more concerned with themselves.. there might be some pride in the product that is produced, but generally we're much concerned about ourselves. I actually bought a foreign car (European) 4 years ago for the fist time, and I will never by another American automobile. I was floored by the difference in how the car handles, how the car rides, and how well it runs. It was an eye opening experience for me personally. My income is somewhat fixed, I get a small raise every year, but I do my best to live well below my means and invest so I can retire comfortably at 55. I'm going to buy the best product available for the money I'm willing to spend. It doesn't matter if it's a hard drive, a big screen TV, or an automobile. My main concern is quality for the dollar, if a company wants a consumer like to me to buy their product, then they should manufacture a better product. Other's have already pointed out that the US is transitioning towards being more of a service driven economy than a manufacturing economy, this is the single biggest factor leading to the demise of the unions, that point has been beat into the ground. Unions are a relic of a bye gone era... it's that simple.