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  1. Agreed, but please don't perpetuate mistruths about the roster rules while forming your opinion. I completely agree the Brewers should take every advantage of having Wang pitch anywhere besides Milwaukee. Unless he needs to be activated in order to effect a trade after July 31st. That has to be a consideration. I believe Wang must be active in order to be placed on revocable waivers that could start that trade discussion. There is nothing in the Rule 5 requirements that seem to prohibit draftees from being placed on REVOCABLE waivers after July 31st. (Of course, the revocable part only being allowed once).
  2. I disagree with you here. It would be nice to have Wang on the disabled list on August 31 because that means he for sure will not be on the playoff roster. If he isn't on the disabled list and there is nobody else on the disabled list, bereavement list, suspended list etc. on August 31 then Wang will have to be hurt again and placed on the disabled list again in September. There is no other way around it. Why go through that again if they don't have to? Why go through that again (Activating Wang). Because Wang cant be traded from the disabled list. Activating Wang allows you to place him on revocable waivers in August in the hopes that some team bites and you can work out a trade with him involving a commodity coming back that might help for the 2014 season? That's one reason of just a few. Nobody on this forum believes Wang will be on the playoff roster, so I don't see the need to fret over it. All the sacrifices of having him on the active gameday roster have pretty much been satisfied. Managing his status from here on out is gravy.
  3. by "send" wang down, i believe you mean shut wang down--that's what the disabled list does. he hasn't been sent down to the minors. and you are correct, the brewers could've put wang on the disabled list at any point this season with an injury, but in order to retain his rights, they'd have to ensure that he accrued 90 days of service time on the 25-man roster. the timetable to return from an injury is never certain. had wang suffered an injury in may, it's possible that he could've been lost too long to make up the 29-58 days late in the season to reach that 90 day benchmark. knowing that he's already met that 90-day requirement, if wang is unable to continue pitching for the rest of the season, he'll remain property of the brewers. it should also be noted that minor league seasons end before mlb seasons, but fortunately, minor league seasons do go into september. wang could start his minor league rehab in august, complete it in september, and return to the major league roster when they're expanded to 40. let's hope he starts his rehab in august, and not july. I've spent a half of the season trying to teach half this board how the Rule 5 draft process works and then you come in and undo most of it! Please allow me to respectfully dispel some of the mistruths I've read over the past page and half. 1. "he has already met a minimum of 90 days on the active 25-man roster, so the brewers were able to place him on the disabled list and not risk losing him." There is NEVER any risk to any player to being lost, simply by placing a player on the DL. If you want to now say, that sending him to the minors on a rehab assignment exposes him back to the Pirates without having played the 90 days, that is also not true. The reason is because it's an assignment, NOT an option being used, of which Wang doesn't have any. Whether Wang played 20 days or 90 days before being placed on a rehab assignment, makes no difference. 2. "the 25-man roster that the team has on 31 august (plus any players on the disabled list) are the players they get to choose from for each round of the postseason roster" Plus the bereavement list, plus the suspended list. AND any player in the organization could be named (with approval by the commissioner) to replace a player on the DL at the end of the regular season. What that means is Wang could be activated on any date beyond July 26th...go back on the disabled list on September 24th and could be replaced on the post-season roster by Jeremy Jeffress, or any other player that was in the organization on the night of August 31st. Doesn't matter if Jeffress isn't on the 25 man roster on that night. 3. "wang can be activated from the 15-day disabled list as early as 26 july, or placed on a 30-day minor league rehab assignment, from which he could be activated as early as 25 august." OR he could be left on the 15-day DL, he could be transferred to the 60-day DL. Also, to say that he can be "activated as early as Aug 25" if he goes on a rehab assignment isn't true either. A rehab assignment DOESNT have to last 30 days....just 30 day is the max for a pitcher. There are a plethora of options when it comes to Wang. He could stay on the 15-day DL for 26 days, go on a 9-day rehab assignment, be activated in mid-August, go back on the 15-day DL on September 25th and be replaced by Jeremy Jeffress for the playoffs if the commissioner approves. It seems unneccessary to wring hands over where Wang sits on August 31st, with respect to the playoffs chances or the playoff roster. 4. "a rule 5 draft pick must be on the active roster for at least 90 days for a team to retain his rights. wang achieved that in early july." The rule says IF a player goes on the disabled list at any point in the first season after being drafted in the Rule 5 Draft, that player must be on the active roster for 90 days OVER TWO YEARS. So again, the Brewers have an advantage that all 90 days are already satisfied, but they didn't need to be. Wang could have be active for 5 days in 2014, on the DL the various times with various rehab assignments, then active for 85 days in 2015 and the Brewers would have satisfied the requirements of the Rule 5 draft. 5. "and you are correct, the brewers could've put wang on the disabled list at any point this season with an injury, but in order to retain his rights, they'd have to ensure that he accrued 90 days of service time on the 25-man roster." Again, not true. In order to satisfy the requirements of the Rule 5 draft, Wang needs 90 days on the active roster over TWO years. His placement on the DL this year or even at points next year is irrelevant, so long as he gets 90 days on the active roster over those TWO seasons. 6. "wang has no minor league options this year (unless a trade is worked out by the pirates). if he remains on the brewers 40-man through spring training 2015, he will have three minor league options" A trade CANNOT be worked out with the Pirates without first exposing Wang to waivers. One of the interesting things that I am anticipating is Wang being placed on revocable waivers at some point in August to see if there are any trade parties interested in making a claim.
  4. When do the MLB investigators and their doctors land in Milwaukee? Has anybody heard when they start examining Wang? I can't imagine they would let this blatant cheating just go by.
  5. The HP umpire has strange mechanics. I swear he is going to ring somebody up each time and just kind of wanders back to a position behind the catcher.
  6. Just like most fans at the actual park...get all excited over a can of corn.
  7. He probably would, but I doubt he even touches the 6th inning. Nearing 100 pitches already. That said, despite the 3 runs being a smallish margin, he completely took the momentum away before the Brewers even got a chance to swing it. Unacceptable.
  8. Is it me or does this feel like a prolonged slump coming on?
  9. Please get this guy (Estrada) off the team. Please, I'm begging.
  10. An 0-2 meatball for a hit. I realize it's tough to do, but just once can't a Brewers starter take a no-hitter deep into a game?
  11. 2 @ TOR 2-0 3 @ CIN 1-2 4 vs PHI 3-1 3 vs STL 2-1 3 @ WAS 1-2 3 vs CIN 2-1 4 vs NYM 3-1 3 @ TB 3-0 (How about we acquire Price and start him against Tampa?) 17-8 NL wins the All-Star Game 10-4 w/ little contribution from the Brewers. Gomez double and run scored.
  12. Better than anticipated. Brewers gained 3.5 on St. Louis, Breakeven w/ Cincy, 1/2 game on Pittsburg.
  13. Wang doesn't need to contribute anything. The Brewers (with 24 men if one believes in being overly dramatic) have the most wins in baseball. Much ado about nothing.
  14. Where did this come from? And where can I find the whole video? It looks like they lit some paper on fire and tossed it at his feet for the excuse to throw water his way? If so, that's a great gag and I'd love to see the whole video.
  15. Not overly compelling. If the pitcher is on the rubber and the batter refuses to get in the box to stall for more look at replay, the umpire will just declare a strike on the batter and the chance to challenge will be over. Rule 6.02 ©: There's no way an ump is going to call a strike in the 10 seconds it would take someone in the booth to decide if the play needed to be reviewed or not. Try two of them... in 9.4 seconds http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/05/one-of-the-rarest-things-youll-see-in-baseball-batter-strikes-out-after-one-pitch-and-9-seconds-2/
  16. Not overly compelling. If the pitcher is on the rubber and the batter refuses to get in the box to stall for more look at replay, the umpire will just declare a strike on the batter and the chance to challenge will be over. Rule 6.02 ©:
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