2010-04-07 Rockies (Cook) at Brewers (Davis), 12:10 PM CDT [Brewers win, 5-4]

[CheezWizHed]

well he has the hat trick now...

[topper09er]

when was the brewers last golden sombrero, bill hall?

[ELCABALLO45]

Nice play by Rickie.

 

Gonzalez needs to leave town.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

Crucial inning for Narveson to get us to Hawkins/Hoffman with a possible smattering of Stetter.

[local hero]

I think so (bill hall wearing the sombrero) and probably the four before that too...

[rluzinski]

When discussing optimal game strategy, it's pretty irrelevant how it turned out in one instance. We have thousands of games of data that suggests it is generally a bad move to sacrifice bunt in that kind of situation. If Gomez was on his own and thought he could get a hit, so be it. I can't imagine he caught the corners napping, though.

[CheezWizHed]

When discussing optimal game strategy, it's pretty irrelevant how it turned out in one instance. We have thousands of games of data that suggests it is generally a bad move to sacrifice bunt in that kind of situation. If Gomez was on his own and thought he could get a hit, so be it. I can't imagine he caught the corners napping, though.

I'm sure Macha and Co. emphasized in ST that he use the bunt more than he has in the past. But he needs to realize the game situation better (especially with Weeks on 2nd) as when not to.

[Schlitz001]

when was the brewers last golden sombrero, bill hall?

Prince on July 24th.

[local hero]

^ unfortunately most of such data is nowhere near particular enough to consider on-field defensive alignment, player speed attributes (both batter and fielder), and a myriad of other factors.

[topper09er]

When discussing optimal game strategy, it's pretty irrelevant how it turned out in one instance. We have thousands of games of data that suggests it is generally a bad move to sacrifice bunt in that kind of situation. If Gomez was on his own and thought he could get a hit, so be it. I can't imagine he caught the corners napping, though.

It depends what you are trying to do. R3 1 out has a better chance of scoring 1 run that R1, R2 0 outs and obviously R2 1 out, so if you are playing for run there (when they were down by 1) bunting is the best play because it is much easier to execute than expecting a hit from Gomez. If you are just waiting around for HRs then its not the best play.

 

[CheezWizHed]

Yes, but why wait to haggle until then? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[CheezWizHed]

Strange, my posts keep getting "inserted" above other posts. My post at #235 was in response to post #237...

 

- Had to edit, because this post was inserted again....

[local hero]

trust me, there'll be worse calls for us to haggle over from here on out

[local hero]

talk about a 6-arm effort today...

[crewcrazy]

Just a friendly reminder that the IGT isn't really the place for one-word reaction posts to what happens in the game ("Yes!", "Boooo!", etc.) -- the chat room is a better place for that kind of thing.

 

Back to the game, hopefully the bullpen can hang on here. They might as well empty out the pen -- the relievers are well-rested after the first couple games, and there's an off-day tomorrow.

[endaround]

In what world Bill is Vargas a power right hander?

[Funketown]

It depends what you are trying to do. R3 1 out has a better chance of scoring 1 run that R1, R2 0 outs and obviously R2 1 out, so if you are playing for run there (when they were down by 1) bunting is the best play because it is much easier to execute than expecting a hit from Gomez. If you are just waiting around for HRs then its not the best play.

Right, but I don't see why they would be playing for one run there.

 

I don't know how I feel about Gomez bunting for hits as often as he does. To a certain extent, I would think that a player like Gomez who is a threat to bunt for a hit would see defenses drawn in, leading to a higher BABIP on non-bunt ground balls. To me, whether the attempted bunt for hits are worth it is whether or not the benefit of the bunt hits and increased BABIP on non-bunt hits can outweigh the outs made while attempting to bunt for hits.

[ELCABALLO45]

Those were a couple really nice pitches by Carlos, really nice movement.

 

Carlos, Braun, Prince due up next. Sounds like runs to me.

[davemakovec]

HUGE out right there. Nicely done, Carlos. I was a little worried that he would get lit up after getting down 3-0.

[topper09er]

Funketown[/b]]Right, but I don't see why they would be playing for one run there.

Because they are down by 1 and have a chance to score a run without getting a hit which should be taken advantage of

 

 

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

Carlos giving the brass a little something to think about with Soup coming back next week.

[Darnell Junior]

I stopped watching on gameday when I saw Villy throw three balls to start. To my pleasant surprise he fought back for an unlikely K. Let's see some shadow boxing this inning.

[local hero]

^ yeah, too bad they prolly won't think twice about anything.

[CheezWizHed]

Carlos giving the brass a little something to think about with Soup coming back next week.

 

Not a chance. Even if he was a better SP, he isn't stretched out...

[Funketown]

Funketown[/b]]Right, but I don't see why they would be playing for one run there.

Because they are down by 1 and have a chance to score a run without getting a hit which should be taken advantage of

 

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that in the 5th inning they'd be better off not going for one run.