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Rumor: MLBTR - Is Adrian Houser a Trade Candidate?


With the Brewers looking at seven starting pitchers after the Miley trade, MLBTR speculates a Houser trade is possible. Houser could easily be the odd man out and if a trade happens, it could be late in the offseason or even during spring training. Personally, I'm leaning away from the Brewers trading any of their possible starters but it's a definite possibility. With so many to choose from and all of them legit candidates to start MLB games, GM Matt Arnold could decide the team is better by trading a pitcher for another asset at a position of more need.


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23 minutes ago, jakedood said:

Looking at the Twins, Maybe Houser for Nick Gordon?

On paper that's a pretty fair deal IMO but the Twins aren't looking for Houser-leveal talent. They have Gray, Mahle, Maeda, Ryan, and Ober along with several AAA prospects. If the Twins acquire a pitcher, he almost needs to be as good or better than Sonny Gray for it to make an impact.

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Santander for Houser would also be a fairly even trade... Orioles could do with some pitching and Brewers may need a right handed hitter and RF to avoid putting all the pressure on the rookies to instantly perform I really like Weimer but unsure if he'll instantly adapt to ML pitching)

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26 minutes ago, nate82 said:

I think with a Houser trade you are looking more at lottery tickets.  I think the Red Sox make some sense here so something like Kavadas, Perales and Rodriguez-Cruz. 

If all they are going to get, though, is lottery tickets, wouldn't it be more prudent just to hang onto him? Even if he isn't in the rotation, he's proven that he can be a solid if not close to dominant reliever. If the team is truly in a contention window, that alone makes Houser is a very useful piece. 

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Just now, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

If all they are going to get, though, is lottery tickets, wouldn't it be more prudent just to hang onto him? Even if he isn't in the rotation, he's proven that he can be a solid if not close to dominant reliever. If the team is truly in a contention window, that alone makes Houser is a very useful piece. 

I am not saying to trade Houser just that I don't think you are going to get much in terms of value back other than some lottery tickets for him.  I think you get more back by trading Lauer than you do with trading Houser but still that is either a prospect deal or someone like Santander in return. 

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2 minutes ago, nate82 said:

I am not saying to trade Houser just that I don't think you are going to get much in terms of value back other than some lottery tickets for him.  I think you get more back by trading Lauer than you do with trading Houser but still that is either a prospect deal or someone like Santander in return. 

Agreed. I think Lauer probably brings back a substantially better package given that he's younger than Houser, has had more recent and consistent success, and is a lefty. I guess I just like the idea of Houser working out of the pen better than getting a handful of 18-year-olds for him if that's all that's out there.

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27 minutes ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Agreed. I think Lauer probably brings back a substantially better package given that he's younger than Houser, has had more recent and consistent success, and is a lefty. I guess I just like the idea of Houser working out of the pen better than getting a handful of 18-year-olds for him if that's all that's out there.

If the Crew could work out an extension with Houser to keep him in Milwaukee as a key member of the bullpen, maybe 5 years, $17.5 million, it would be a good idea. Otherwise, I'd rather take the lottery tickets for some chance at finding the next Freddy Peralta.

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13 minutes ago, clancyphile said:

If the Crew could work out an extension with Houser to keep him in Milwaukee as a key member of the bullpen, maybe 5 years, $17.5 million, it would be a good idea. Otherwise, I'd rather take the lottery tickets for some chance at finding the next Freddy Peralta.

Not me. Turning a lottery ticket into Freddy is a pretty major aberration, and definitely not the norm in these types of deals. Most of the time these deals for projectable teens amount to nothing. I'd much rather have Houser's solid MLB arm on the roster for the next 3 years during this contention window, than a hope and prayer we, even in a best-case won't see until at least its rebuild time. Contending teams don't deal off pieces that they consider part of their immediate plans for shots in the dark, unless extenuating circumstances come into play.

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1 hour ago, Ron Robinsons Beard said:

Agreed. I think Lauer probably brings back a substantially better package given that he's younger than Houser, has had more recent and consistent success, and is a lefty. I guess I just like the idea of Houser working out of the pen better than getting a handful of 18-year-olds for him if that's all that's out there.

Agree with all of this.

I would certainly entertain the thought of trading him for Santander but my gut feeling is there's very little chance of Baltimore making that deal.

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1 hour ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Agree with all of this.

I would certainly entertain the thought of trading him for Santander but my gut feeling is there's very little chance of Baltimore making that deal.

Why would the Brewers want Santander when they already have Yelich-Mitchell-Taylor-Winker-Frelick-Wiemer-Perkins as OF depth?

Doesn't make sense. Now, Houser for DL Hall, who could be good help in the bullpen, might be an option.

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23 minutes ago, clancyphile said:

Why would the Brewers want Santander when they already have Yelich-Mitchell-Taylor-Winker-Frelick-Wiemer-Perkins as OF depth?

Doesn't make sense. Now, Houser for DL Hall, who could be good help in the bullpen, might be an option.

Perkins is a filler who's likely to not be wanted to start many games at all

Winker is a defensive liability for emergencies/rotating yelich

So Taylor + yelich + rookies, I'd want a third competent outfielder so the pressure isn't all on the rookies, and maybe allow service time manipulation 

 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, clancyphile said:

Why would the Brewers want Santander when they already have Yelich-Mitchell-Taylor-Winker-Frelick-Wiemer-Perkins as OF depth?

Doesn't make sense. Now, Houser for DL Hall, who could be good help in the bullpen, might be an option.

The Orioles wouldn't trade Hall for Houser.  Hall is someone the Orioles see as a starter and not a reliever.  They have placed him in the bullpen last year but they see him as a starter.  You would have to include more to get Hall which is just not worth it at that point.  Santander makes the most sense for a Brewers trade with the Orioles but I think they would want Lauer over Houser. 

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2 hours ago, clancyphile said:

Why would the Brewers want Santander when they already have Yelich-Mitchell-Taylor-Winker-Frelick-Wiemer-Perkins as OF depth?

Doesn't make sense. Now, Houser for DL Hall, who could be good help in the bullpen, might be an option.

If they made that deal Santander could arguably be more productive in 2023 than any of the OFs mentioned. It would also most likely be a precursor to another deal involving an OF. In any case, as I said I doubt the O's would do it. More than anything it would be a chance to get more for Houser than they'd likely ever be able to get.

I also doubt the O's would give us Hall for Houser.

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I'm thinking where Milw sits is similar to a timeframe before making the trade for Adames.  No pitching trades will happen until right up to or after Opening Day.  We've had some minor injuries that caused some delay to starting the season healthy. Team needs Houser and the article is just clickbait. When the team enters Opening Day healthy and more options than roster spaces, then they'll look to swing a deal. Other teams such as Boston(who just lost Story for the season) will suffer injuries and have a need we could fill. More desperate means higher return.

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11 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

With the Brewers looking at seven starting pitchers after the Miley trade, MLBTR speculates a Houser trade is possible. Houser could easily be the odd man out and if a trade happens, it could be late in the offseason or even during spring training. Personally, I'm leaning away from the Brewers trading any of their possible starters but it's a definite possibility. With so many to choose from and all of them legit candidates to start MLB games, GM Matt Arnold could decide the team is better by trading a pitcher for another asset at a position of more need.

 

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The Brewers said they were going to improve SP depth in the offseason. Miley was it. Now, they could still move someone if they get an offer they can't refuse--for any of the starters.

 

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4 minutes ago, Robocaller said:

The Brewers said they were going to improve SP depth in the offseason. Miley was it. Now, they could still move someone if they get an offer they can't refuse--for any of the starters.

Yeah, I honestly don't see them moving a starter, particularly Houser, because I don't see the return being significant enough to warrant the move.

In some ways, I'd be less surprised to see them move Burnes than Houser.

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2 hours ago, Robocaller said:

The Brewers said they were going to improve SP depth in the offseason. Miley was it. Now, they could still move someone if they get an offer they can't refuse--for any of the starters.

 

I haven't paid enough attention to the details about any of them, but I'd include Janson Junk, Bryse Wilson, & Tyson Miller as additional SP depth beyond Miley.  Miley may well be the only one who bumps several people down the list, whereas Junk/Wilson/Miller and whomever else probably all slot into the AAA rotation as MLB safety-net guys.

I agree that hanging onto most of that depth is both needed and also the best move as opposed to sending some of that depth off in a trade right now (assuming such a trade isn't of the can't-refuse/blow-us-away variety).

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3 hours ago, MNBrew said:

 I'd include Janson Junk, Bryse Wilson, & Tyson Miller as additional SP depth beyond Miley. 

They are depth approximately of the Jason Alexander quality. Some of them might take a jump, but I'd keep them in AAA until they do.

 

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