Brewers (Burnes) vs Marlins (TBD): 9/22/23, 5:40pm

[willie key]

Welcome back yelich

[BrewerFan]

41 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

No doubt there are factors to consider beyond raw win percentage.

The league has expanded, scheduling formats are different, the talent pool has grown exponentially on an international scale, I don’t know what payrolls were like 1978-83 but I’m guessing they were much more tightly grouped and the Brewers weren’t at a hundred plus million deficit behind many of their competitors.

The Brewers were still among the league leaders and led the league a couple times in the late 70sand 80s. I think 1991 there was a big jump, then again with the Jays the next couple years where it went from like ~18-20M to ~40M to ~52M in a couple year period.

Sal Bando and the jump in payroll really kinda coincided and...that was the last time the Brewers were a million or 3 from having the highest payroll...as I can remember it. I remember looking it up years ago, but don't remember exact specifics.

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, SomewhereInTime said:

Thats disrespectful to use a position player to pitch while leading a game.  Completely unnecessary too with the expanded September roster

LOL...I think I get it now!

The whole schtick. None of it can possibly be serious. The "Latin American signings aren't worth it, I'd take 8M on a veteran reliever, utility OFer instead, trading Chourio before he loses his value...SOOOO many comically ridiculous posts!

Now feigning outrage at a position player pitching when every other team in the league would do the same thing!

 

Well done! You've played the long game!

 

[StearnsFTW]

13 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Who would you rather see the Brewers play in the first round, the Reds or Marlins?

I think I lean Reds but I'm not really sure why.

They own both.

 

Don't care.

[StearnsFTW]

Hoeing gave up 10 runs ( 2 inherited) on 26 pitches in the 2nd.

 

Thats fairly incredible.

 

 

[Bulldogboy]

If you want a laugh go back and look at some of the Brewers lineups in June and July. It's incredible. 

[Never Outhustled]

11 hours ago, SomewhereInTime said:

Thats disrespectful to use a position player to pitch while leading a game.  Completely unnecessary too with the expanded September roster

I was so relieved they actually did this. We already lost Peguero to overuse, and Payamps has lost his fastball from overuse. Close games and the 6 man rotation have made it tough to manage the bullpen.

[willie key]

Burnes still threw 100 pitches     What will we have him do in his last game.  50-60 maybe.   I wonder if we are going to call up some starters or long relievers for that last series.   I can’t see our big three throwing more than 3-4 innings

[Never Outhustled]

48 minutes ago, willie key said:

Burnes still threw 100 pitches     What will we have him do in his last game.  50-60 maybe.   I wonder if we are going to call up some starters or long relievers for that last series.   I can’t see our big three throwing more than 3-4 innings

Yeah, the only annoying part of the game was that it took Burnes 97 pitches to get through 5 innings. 

[Never Outhustled]

14 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

LOL...I think I get it now!

The whole schtick. None of it can possibly be serious. The "Latin American signings aren't worth it, I'd take 8M on a veteran reliever, 

 

 

He might be Doug Melvin. Melvin literally closed the Dominican Academy, and used the savings to sign Eric Gagne to a 1 year/$10 million contract. Like all of Melvins free agent signings, he was cut before the end of the contract. 

[SomewhereInTime]

19 hours ago, TURBO said:

I can't tell if you are serious or not.

100% serious, position players pitching is dumb, especially when leading.  You can all argue against a wall if you want, I dont care.

[BrewerFan]

8 hours ago, Never Outhustled said:

 

He might be Doug Melvin. Melvin literally closed the Dominican Academy, and used the savings to sign Eric Gagne to a 1 year/$10 million contract. Like all of Melvins free agent signings, he was cut before the end of the contract. 

Hey, not all of his signings were bad! Somon Torres is the reason they re-opened an academy in the DR and eventually ended up with Abner Uribe(who...I haven't gotten an answer on if he's worth the 85K they spent to sign him yet). 

I really just...don't believe he believes what he says at this point. No way he's looking at Uribe, Chourio, Quero, Lara and saying, "give me a Hunter Renfroe for one year instead!"

 

6 hours ago, SomewhereInTime said:

100% serious, position players pitching is dumb, especially when leading.  You can all argue against a wall if you want, I dont care.

I've yet to find a wall that's more entertaining. 

Also, Walls aren't as good at parody. 

[SomewhereInTime]

1 hour ago, BrewerFan said:

Hey, not all of his signings were bad! Somon Torres is the reason they re-opened an academy in the DR and eventually ended up with Abner Uribe(who...I haven't gotten an answer on if he's worth the 85K they spent to sign him yet). 

I really just...don't believe he believes what he says at this point. No way he's looking at Uribe, Chourio, Quero, Lara and saying, "give me a Hunter Renfroe for one year instead!"

 

I've yet to find a wall that's more entertaining. 

Also, Walls aren't as good at parody. 

I prefer Andrew Monastario, the DSL player that doesn't have to be signed directly and doesn't have to play in out DSL.

[BrewerFan]

2 hours ago, SomewhereInTime said:

I prefer Andrew Monastario, the DSL player that doesn't have to be signed directly and doesn't have to play in out DSL.

LOL...you prefer him to what? Jackson Chourio? Quero, Uribe?

I'm not even going around round here because I know you don't believe what you're saying. I'm just gonna laugh at it!

 

I prefer Andrew Monastario over Jackson Chourio, Jefferson Quero and Abner Uribe! 

I mean, the idea that ONE precludes the other is dumb enough, so the "preference," is totally irrelevant and you have to know that.

No successful team has had success without a DSL team, without Baseball Acadamies in LA and the idea that you'd "rather" they spend 8-10M on a reliever or a 4th OFer kinda gets shot to hell when we've got a reliever throwing 102MPH sinkers and the #2 prospect in ALL of baseball.

 

For the record, I prefer all forms of acquiring talent...I just realize the absolute worst value is spending ~10M a year on an aging FA rather than signing 30+ young LA prospects for half that price!

[SomewhereInTime]

5 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

LOL...you prefer him to what? Jackson Chourio? Quero, Uribe?

I'm not even going around round here because I know you don't believe what you're saying. I'm just gonna laugh at it!

 

I prefer Andrew Monastario over Jackson Chourio, Jefferson Quero and Abner Uribe! 

I mean, the idea that ONE precludes the other is dumb enough, so the "preference," is totally irrelevant and you have to know that.

No successful team has had success without a DSL team, without Baseball Acadamies in LA and the idea that you'd "rather" they spend 8-10M on a reliever or a 4th OFer kinda gets shot to hell when we've got a reliever throwing 102MPH sinkers and the #2 prospect in ALL of baseball.

 

For the record, I prefer all forms of acquiring talent...I just realize the absolute worst value is spending ~10M a year on an aging FA rather than signing 30+ young LA prospects for half that price!

The biggest success in franchise history in DSL has maybe been 30 relief innings from Uribe, though it could be Peralta's one good season.  Its a money pit.

[sveumrules]

23 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

The biggest success in franchise history in DSL has maybe been 30 relief innings from Uribe, though it could be Peralta's one good season.  Its a money pit.

Or Escobar, who was traded for Greinke.

Or Arcia, who has the 4th most SS innings in franchise history.

But again, the past is irrelevant to the future since the whole program was revamped over the last few years and we’ve already started seeing the results at the MLB level.

[BrewerFan]

3 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Or Escobar, who was traded for Greinke.

Or Arcia, who has the 4th most SS innings in franchise history.

But again, the past is irrelevant to the future since the whole program was revamped over the last few years and we’ve already started seeing the results at the MLB level.

Sveum...once you realize even somewhere in time doesn't believe what he's saying, he just can't admit he was wrong now/has been trolling, it all makes SOO much more sense! 

Earlier this year Uribe was an injury prone pitcher who couldn't throw strikes and we should trade Chourio while he still has some value. And we could do that. And get a helluva lot more than 10M a year for him.

Hey, I'm sure we could trade Chourio for Khris Bryant and the Rox would absolutely pay every penny on his contract they were allowed to(we'd still have to pay the minimum). That's...kinda like a 4th OF/extra reliever, right?

[SomewhereInTime]

1 hour ago, BrewerFan said:

Sveum...once you realize even somewhere in time doesn't believe what he's saying, he just can't admit he was wrong now/has been trolling, it all makes SOO much more sense! 

Earlier this year Uribe was an injury prone pitcher who couldn't throw strikes and we should trade Chourio while he still has some value. And we could do that. And get a helluva lot more than 10M a year for him.

Hey, I'm sure we could trade Chourio for Khris Bryant and the Rox would absolutely pay every penny on his contract they were allowed to(we'd still have to pay the minimum). That's...kinda like a 4th OF/extra reliever, right?

I'm done re-stating the same points to you over and over again.  I do not care if you agree with me or not.  Once again, go argue with a wall.

[BrewerFan]

1 hour ago, SomewhereInTime said:

Once again, go argue with a wall.

I mean...for all intents and purposes I am! 

A wall isn't NEARLY as entertaining though...unless it's one of those walls where they paint a design into it and then you have a person who jumps out and startles you. I suppose that'd be more entertaining.

PLEASE just promise me you'll stick around and be here the next year or two? I need you telling us signing LA players is a waste or resources when Chourio is a ROY candidate, Quero gets called up as a catching prospect and Uribe....well, we already know what Uribe is!