2023-24 NFL Playoffs thread

[HarryDoyle]

Yeah, I'm going to have to avoid media coverage of the Super Bowl for the next two weeks.

[yourout]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Lions so much tougher than us inside the 15 offensively. Didn't feel like we could ever hammer it in. 

And I thought I could do it, but I can't get myself to hope the 49ers win. 

The current version of the 49ers is really easy to hate.

[HarryDoyle]

Careful what you wish for. If Detroit wins it all, Lions fans will be insufferable. Maybe even if they only win the NFC.

[yourout]

This game might turn into a shootout.

Not sure Detroit can stop San Francisco without turnovers.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

If the Lions win this game they certainly deserve it. Scoring inside the 20 and catching interceptions, two things the Packers couldn't do. 

Oh, and Purdy stinks. The guy is such a fraud. 

[yourout]

3 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

If the Lions win this game they certainly deserve it. Scoring inside the 20 and catching interceptions, two things the Packers couldn't do. 

Oh, and Purdy stinks. The guy is such a fraud. 

They definitely are not going to screw up their opportunities.

[HarryDoyle]

5 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

If the Lions win this game they certainly deserve it. Scoring inside the 20 and catching interceptions, two things the Packers couldn't do. 

Oh, and Purdy stinks. The guy is such a fraud. 

Yep, another what if season in the books. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

3 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Yep, another what if season in the books. 

FWIW I think Maholmes runs away with it and I think he would have had the Packers made it. 

Yeah the Packers did beat DET and KC but this would have been a completely different situation. They could have, but I wouldn't have thought either the NFCCG or SB to be gimmes. 

That said, you're correct, exactly what I was saying last week amid all the "they're so young!" positivity. This year turned out to be a chance as good as any other they've had since 2010. In the end, they lost a game they dominated most of the night and the squandered gifts in their lap were the reason it was close. 

[HarryDoyle]

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

FWIW I think Maholmes runs away with it and I think he would have had the Packers made it. 

Yeah the Packers did beat DET and KC but this would have been a completely different situation. They could have, but I wouldn't have thought either the NFCCG or SB to be gimmes. 

That said, you're correct, exactly what I was saying last week amid all the "they're so young!" positivity. This year turned out to be a chance as good as any other they've had since 2010. In the end, they lost a game they dominated most of the night and the squandered gifts in their lap were the reason it was close. 

There's still 32 minutes left but until proven otherwise, the Lions are the team to beat in the division next season.

[Fear The Chorizo]

It's refreshing to watch a team physically dominate the 49ers defense, even if it's a division rival

[HarryDoyle]

Wow, this Niners run defense is pathetic, between us and the Lions the past two weeks at least.. I was told this defensive line was all world.

[tmwiese55]

Yea Det is playing well and physical so I can't act too confident like it would be a W for GB.  But they beat them there already, ,Goff is just good not some elite guy, Det crowd would've been nuts though. Probably 60/40 type game in Dets favore.

But so far IDK how the takeaway is to bash the QB in the "this team is so loaded any QB can do it narrative".  The D has got torched all game.  First O possession normal drive for a FG, kickers miss. Next drive, normal TD drive but including multiple 3rd down pickups by the QB including a scramble to create one.  3rd, O lineman fault creates INT.  4th possession, just normal out. But under pressure 3rd down, qb gets away and gives it a chance but WR can't make the catch. They have shown no wide open misses or mistakes by the QB and he has had heavy pressure the whole time.   So far, the "loaded all pro team" have been the ones Fn up and yea the only good/mediocre QB isn't good enough to do it himself.     Also, didn't we just see the best QB in the world just not score the entire 2H of an AFC champ game, maybe he's just riding the loaded team around him I guess.

Also, Goff was another guy I've had the same discussion about over the years, including since he's been in Det.  Turns out he doesn't suck either 

[HarryDoyle]

1 minute ago, HarryDoyle said:

Wow, this Niners run defense is pathetic, between us and the Lions the past two weeks at least.. I was told this defensive line was all world.

Case in point.

 

[yourout]

That was almost a Mike McCarthy level effort at trying to steal a possession only to have it go poof in your face.

[HarryDoyle]

3 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Case in point.

 

Exhibit B on Chase Young.

 

[nate82]

Just now, HarryDoyle said:

Exhibit B on Chase Young.

 

He is a good pass rusher but when it comes to run defense.  I am not sure anyone is worse than him. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

11 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

There's still 32 minutes left but until proven otherwise, the Lions are the team to beat in the division next season.

Ehhhh, I am not as sure.

Goff is Goff. This was probably his best season. But he's the kind of guy totally capable of a 20/12 season at random. I could totally see them looking for a new QB in two years. Honestly, I don't think they thought they'd get this out of him when they traded Stafford. 

Regardless of how these playoffs unfold, I think plenty of odds makers will have GB as the favorite. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

5 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

Yea Det is playing well and physical so I can't act too confident like it would be a W for GB.  But they beat them there already, ,Goff is just good not some elite guy, Det crowd would've been nuts though. Probably 60/40 type game in Dets favore.

But so far IDK how the takeaway is to bash the QB in the "this team is so loaded any QB can do it narrative".  The D has got torched all game.  First O possession normal drive for a FG, kickers miss. Next drive, normal TD drive but including multiple 3rd down pickups by the QB including a scramble to create one.  3rd, O lineman fault creates INT.  4th possession, just normal out. But under pressure 3rd down, qb gets away and gives it a chance but WR can't make the catch. They have shown no wide open misses or mistakes by the QB and he has had heavy pressure the whole time.   So far, the "loaded all pro team" have been the ones Fn up and yea the only good/mediocre QB isn't good enough to do it himself.     Also, didn't we just see the best QB in the world just not score the entire 2H of an AFC champ game, maybe he's just riding the loaded team around him I guess.

Also, Goff was another guy I've had the same discussion about over the years, including since he's been in Det.  Turns out he doesn't suck either 

Goff was a 1st overall pick, lol.

And Baltimore embarrassed the 49ers in San Fran late in the season.  I don't know how the takeaway is to try and prop Purdy up as something more than he is (matt flynn) based on how many points Mahomes didnt score in the second half in a game his team just won.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

2 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Goff was a 1st overall pick, lol.

And Baltimore embarrassed the 49ers in San Fran late in the season.  I don't know how the takeaway is to try and prop Purdy up as something more than he is (matt flynn) based on how many points Mahomes didnt score in the second half in a game his team just won.

Lots of guys were 1st overall picks. Goff was  throw in to make Stafford's salary work out. He's had a nice second wind in DET. He's good, he's ok. He's probably not a top 10 QB.  

[yourout]

8 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Ehhhh, I am not as sure.

Goff is Goff. This was probably his best season. But he's the kind of guy totally capable of a 20/12 season at random. I could totally see them looking for a new QB in two years. Honestly, I don't think they thought they'd get this out of him when they traded Stafford. 

Regardless of how these playoffs unfold, I think plenty of odds makers will have GB as the favorite. 

I don't really know their contract situation if they're going to lose some free agents but I would have to give them the nod going into the season.

[HarryDoyle]

7 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Ehhhh, I am not as sure.

Goff is Goff. This was probably his best season. But he's the kind of guy totally capable of a 20/12 season at random. I could totally see them looking for a new QB in two years. Honestly, I don't think they thought they'd get this out of him when they traded Stafford. 

Regardless of how these playoffs unfold, I think plenty of odds makers will have GB as the favorite. 

If the odds makers do it will be because they are the "sexy" pick, not necessarily because they are the better team.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I think they are close to the same team on paper with the major difference being that Love looks like the potential next big thing and their guy is Jared Goff. As we know all too well there are more positions than QB though. 

Personally I feel that GB is better positioned for long term success than DET, almost solely because of the QB position. 

[yourout]

Outside of the two Denver broncos super bowl wins how many super bowl wins has the shanahan tree actually produced?

[HarryDoyle]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I think they are close to the same team on paper with the major difference being that Love looks like the potential next big thing and their guy is Jared Goff. As we know all too well there are more positions than QB though. 

Personally I feel that GB is better positioned for long term success than DET, almost solely because of the QB position. 

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you say, but as of right now the Lions are the better and more fundamentally sound team. The Packers may very well win the division next season and I would not be surprised but like Ric Flair says, to be the man you gotta beat the man.

[tmwiese55]

15 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Goff was a 1st overall pick, lol.

And Baltimore embarrassed the 49ers in San Fran late in the season.  I don't know how the takeaway is to try and prop Purdy up as something more than he is (matt flynn) based on how many points Mahomes didnt score in the second half in a game his team just won.

He was mocked out of LA and then as Det was bad the first 1.5 years of his in Det.  He was mocked and bashed over and over.

It was to point out that even the best QBs can't jus score every time (and often lose playoff games as we've seen here over and over in GB) so if the mediocre one has a mediocre game at this time it doesn't prove he sucks, since even the best suck at times vs this level of competition.