Brewers (Harrison) vs Reds (Singer): 09/06/26, 11:10 AM

[willie key]

2 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

He’s a very good GM who has not been very good at the deadline, and it’s okay to say it. I feel like some (not you) can’t fathom that Matt Arnold screwed up. It’s fine. No one expects him to be perfect. I’d like him to be the first to recognize it because that’s how you learn and improve.

A lot of the time it’s people using hindsight to criticize the trade so sometimes that’s unfair.   But clearly a lot of people were first guessing this.   There are a lot of factors that happened in this trade.   And now you add in the hindsight of how bad the performance was.   It was a terrible trade 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

1 hour ago, adambr2 said:

So we’re not allowed to have a negative opinion of trades that we didn’t like at the time they happen and have yielded poor results since they happen, just because we’re years from knowing how the prospects we gave up will pan out?

No, sorry, I don’t agree with that at all, 

Nope. Also, not what I said. You're allowed to have any opinion you want. But, at some point, every appearance by these guys can't be a referendum on the trade. It's done. Your disagreement is philosophical and may or may not end up bearing out. You've stated your position, and weaponizing it every time results from Romero and May go a certain way isn't all that useful, and I say that as someone who completely understands disliking the trade. It's just not something worth litigating until we have enough information to actually litigate it.

It's sort of like trading stock in an up-and-coming burger restaurant for stock in a mid-tier, established chain restaurant. Evaluating your trade every time the chain moves up or down is kind of a silly way to do business. Once we end the season, we'll at least know the Romero/May half, and, at that point, we can check in. Until then, it just seems kind of silly to constantly scratch the itch. It's a lot of energy to expend on a range of outcomes that will, most likely, fall into the category of "meh" (and, again, if it doesn't, by all means, let's talk then!).

[adambr2]

2 minutes ago, Cool Hand Lucroy said:

Nope. Also, not what I said. You're allowed to have any opinion you want. But, at some point, every appearance by these guys can't be a referendum on the trade. It's done. Your disagreement is philosophical and may or may not end up bearing out. You've stated your position, and weaponizing it every time results from Romero and May go a certain way isn't all that useful, and I say that as someone who completely understands disliking the trade. It's just not something worth litigating until we have enough information to actually litigate it.

It's sort of like trading stock in an up-and-coming burger restaurant for stock in a mid-tier, established chain restaurant. Evaluating your trade every time the chain moves up or down is kind of a silly way to do business. Once we end the season, we'll at least know the Romero/May half, and, at that point, we can check in. Until then, it just seems kind of silly to constantly scratch the itch. It's a lot of energy to expend on a range of outcomes that will, most likely, fall into the category of "meh" (and, again, if it doesn't, by all means, let's talk then!).

Trust me, I take no pleasure in “weaponizing” it as you put it. 

If each appearance is not to be a referendum on the trade, how about a good appearance? 

Believe me, if there is a referendum I would much prefer it to be “gee maybe it was worth it, May just might help us win a World Series.” Because that is far what I would rather see happen over being right in my initial disgust over the deal,