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Steroid investigation- Latest: Jay Gibbons in trouble


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Wade Wilson just admitted to getting HGH while he was working as an assistant coach for the Bears just a few days ago. That's gotten very little press, despite the fact it's pretty obvious that he was getting it for players.
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So, what's going to happen when inevitably one of our own turned out to be on 'roids?

Come on...with the money in professional sports one would have to be quite naive to think that fewer than 50% of professional athletes use performance enhancers....it's a product of a small margin of different between fame and fortune, and failure. It's pervasive.

We're in the HGH and designer roid world right now....no test for this stuff. It's pervasive.
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I mean come on!!!

 

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Baseball/MLB/2004/06/17/gonzalez-ap.jpg

 

 

http://baseballevolution.com/images/AllNatural-344x227.jpg

Does anyone have that crazy photo of Gonzo flexing in his sterioid days ? it is a lot scarier than the abouve photo.

 

 

i dont get how people cant think those two didnt use roids...its so obvious!! that picture of gonzo is great
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I don't have the "scarier" pic, buuuuutttt...

 

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/luis_gonzalez_autograph.jpg

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This Ken Rosenthal article on Luis Gonzalez in 2001 is good for a little laugh these days: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_31_225/ai_76955130

 

"Luis Gonzalez is sitting shirtless at his locker, looking like baseball's version of the skinny kid who got sand kicked in his face. If Gonzalez is on steroids, then I'm on hallucinogens. But every slugger is under suspicion these days."

 

Looks like Kenny Rosenthal likes his LSD.

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You guys do realize that it's possible to get huge without steroids right? Not to mention that steroids in and of themself don't make you huge, you need to workout too (there are pitchers that are juicing and they don't look like bodybuilders) To me, the most damning evidence is not the size of a guy's muscles but his jump in power numbers. So instead of pics of a guy's biceps being the only piece of the puzzle, you need to use his stats as well. Brady Anderson wasn't overly huge but I bet my 401K he juiced as did Bret Boone (although his biggest sin is having frosted hair). Gonzo is a great guy by all accounts but his power numbers tell more than that pic.

 

Gozno - Guy never hit more than 15 HRs in a year or slugged more than .473 then plays one year in Detroit where he hits 23 hrs. Next year at AZ, 26 HR, next year 31. And the following year 57 HR at age 33. He never hit more than 28 after that.

 

Anderson - never hit more than 21 HRs in a year then hit 50 at age 32. Never hit more than 24 after that.

 

Makes me wonder about Bill Hall from time to time.

 

It's like theses guys cycled on for a year, got their contract, and stopped or got too old for it to matter anymore.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Brady Anderson wasn't overly huge but I bet my 401K he juiced

 

http://www.outsidepitch.com/images/merch/brady_poster_2.jpg

 

Sure looks huge to me...but still, looks like your 401k is safe homer.

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Wow, that picture certainly makes him look big. I blame airbrushing. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Just a suggestion, but given how quickly this is turning into a roll-call list of MLB players, perhaps changing the thread title to be more descriptive would be useful.

 

EDIT: Cool - unfortunately I think this thread is going to be heavily trafficked, and in use for quite some time...http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/frown.gif

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Gibbons' name coming up isn't all that surprising, since it was widely speculated that he was named in the Jason Grimsley affadavit. Certainly makes his long injury history a little more interesting, to say the least.

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