July 3th, Brewers lose 2-1 in 10 innings to Cubs. Top of the 6th inning, game tied 1-1: Fielder walk, McGehee single. Now, if I was the manager this would be an automatic bunting situation. Instead: Cameron K, Hart K, Hardy weak groundout. I think we could probably exhaust this discussion going back & forth with specific scenarios, be they actual happenings or theoreticals. So I think I'll quote your own line... Im not trying to be condecending Im just disagreeing with you. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif Maybe I can hope that BF.net will be the first place where people say, "Give up outs in attempting to bunt runners over" as opposed to "manufacture runs". Any time a run is scored, no matter the method, a run has been generated. Hey, I can dream, right?!