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  1. I'm not sure that the Yankees would have even went to $35 million. Though it sounded insane at the time, that deal almost looks like a bargain now... though the new part after the opt-out could get really ugly down the road.
  2. I don't know. If MLB wanted to throw someone under the bus, why Braun? Why would you want a reigning MVP to come off tainted? To me, that hurts the game. It'd have been far easier to let the collector take the fall.
  3. I say if you trade Greinke the odds of signing him in the winter are zero. In my view, the only chance the Brewers have of resigning Greinke is negotiating with him in the next month. The Brewers need to figure out what they are willing to pay Greinke and get to the table. We know from the past that they aren't going to get into a bidding war with anyone. They need to basically lay it on the line, tell him that they want to move forward with him but they need to lock something in. Make him your best offer and if he turns it down, then go from there. The offer is going to have to be 'Cain money', not 'Verlander/Weaver' money. At this point, you won't have Greinke's agent using your offer as leverage to drive the price up for other teams, etc. By signing a deal, Greinke will also take a bunch of risk off his back of having a Ben Sheets type injury late in the season.
  4. Stetter would certainly have more value to the team than Perez.
  5. If you trade Greinke you absolutely have to get a package or a top prospect you think is close to can't niss (maybe a Profar) no guessing if they trade him. Absolutely. You don't settle for the best deal, just because. If nobody makes a great offer, you let things play out for the rest of the year and in free agency. That said, though I'm still strongly in the keep Greinke camp, if I'm Melvin I'd strike up negotiations with Texas. They'd likely offer a B-level prospect, 'cost controlled' pitching surplus like Holland and a pipe dream 20 year old A ball arm. The negotiations would be worth it just to break out in my best Daryl Hall voice over the phone and sing, "We're so close, yet Profar away".
  6. I fail to see the point of trading Morgan. He seems to be very popular with his teammates and even also with the fans, is not expensive and has not lived up to his 'cancer' reputation in the least. Why trade him for the sake of making a move? To let someone from Nashville sit and rot on the bench? On the other hand, maybe they could get Cutter Dykstra or even Komatsu back for him.... I just think that people have set the bar way too high for this franchise. I also feel that people are too knee jerk from game to game. Yes, the K.C. series was a kick below the belt, but if they win today, they were basically one game below my goal for the road trip(which they also were during the home stand.... however they were two ahead of my goal in LA, so it's even). After watching crappy baseball for all the lean years, I'll take plus .500 baseball with a chance of playoffs into the late summer every year. With the pitching coming around, yes there is still a chance. I see a lot of assumptions that you dump everyone, stockpile 'Baseball America prospects', and you will be fighting for the division in 2014, even though the cupboard of minor league hitters in the organization is almost completely bare.
  7. I can't speak out against the Weeks deal because I was on board big time. I thought that they got a bargain. Obviously, I was good with Hart as well. I was big time against the Wolf deal, but that one turned out OK. I wasn't a fan of the Ramirez deal either, but time will tell. In my view, outside of Soup, Melvin's biggest money wasters have been on the bullpen. Gagne, K-Rod, 3 years for Riske, with a buyout.... are you kidding me? Not huge money, but kind of like a rapper lighting a cigar with a hundred dollar bill. Foolish. He also dodged a bullet thanks to Cordero's greed.
  8. Not yet. I'm willing to give him the rest of the year to figure things out, and probably part of next year as well. I honestly will be shocked if he's 'done'. I have racked my brain, and I can't think of one similar hitter that went from a season like last year to a .160 hitter for seemingly no reason. It's not like he's 38 years old, or some 24 year old who overachieved one season. He's 30 years old, with a track record of several years with relative success.
  9. I must be remembering things wrong then, because I remember Mench stinking up the joint for the remainder of that season. I don't remember the platoon coming into play until the next season.
  10. So Gantner was a terrible offensive player and a solid defender. Not close to Weeks. If you want to put Molitor and Money at 2nd and 3rd, then fine. But not in favor of Gantner I disagree strongly that Gantner was terrible offensively. Especially back in the 'glory days'. You have to remember that back then, many second basemen didn't hit for squat. I'd bet that Gantner was above average as a 2b at the plate. He was an eight hitter for the most part and a strong up the middle defender. He was fine for that lineup... he didn't need to do much with everyone else there, he put the ball in play and made things happen for the top of the lineup. Seriously, who would you rather have put down a bunt or move a runner over, Gantner or Weeks? I think that one of the problems with Gantner's perception is that people remember his later years where he wasn't as good at the plate with absolutely no power. At the same time, he was pretty good during his prime. As for Weeks, he's had 2.5 good seasons so far. That's not enough for me to put him ahead of Gantner yet. If he remembers how to play again and has a few decent years, then I'll do so.
  11. Who was he going to start ahead of, Ryan Braun or Corey Hart? I don't know... Kevin Mench?
  12. Does he get any credit for extending players (Braun, Yo, Luc, Hart, etc)? Some. The 'Cleveland model' is basically a calculated risk that can work (it did in Cleveland). At the same time, even the Bando/Selig did this with guys like Listasch, Valentin, Eldred, Burnitz etc. with somewhat disastrous results. I see it as more of a cost certainty move that shifts some risk to the players but also looks good to the fans. I want to see the Brewers to actually sign one of their own stars once they hit that free agency year. Say what you want about Selig and the changing economics of the game, but until Molitor left, the biggest FA defection from Milwaukee was probably Billy Travers. In the end, Greinke is not going to get much more than Cain did (it's actually kind of nice that Cain is boosting his profile as late), this amount is not going to bankrupt Attanasio. It may look horrible in five years, but without risk, there is rarely reward. If throw up your hands every time one of your stars hits free agency, things seem pretty fruitless.
  13. Strongly agreed. He is always at the top of the 'trade him' discussions, but he's been a good one (and not as bad a defensive RF as some make him out to be either). You seem to be advocating a scrubs and studs approach, which can work but is most certainly not the only option. Never heard this term used before, but I like it. It's going to be my new battle cry in advocating a Greinke signing.
  14. A few things.... I get that Lawrie is still only 22 or whatever, but he hasn't been very good this season. He hasn't been horrible, but not great either. Offensively, he'd be toward the low end of AL 3rd basemen. I should know because he's been one of the bigger disappointments on my fantasy team. Maybe last year was a bit of a mirage. As for Cruz, the whole 'everybody could have had him on waivers' argument irks me a bit. It's like saying that everybody could have had Tom Brady in the draft. The fact is that the Brewers had Cruz and gave up on him without ever giving him much of a chance. They weren't going to bring him back on waivers a few months later (They only do that with Claudio Vargas). That's much more egregious to me. Incidentally, Cruz hasn't been very good this season either, so maybe this decision won't sting as bad down the road.
  15. I might even take Don Money over both of 'em. You have a point there. I'd think long and hard about it, but I don't think Money played 2nd for long. I believe that he got bumped to 3rd for Pedro Garcia, then back to 2nd for Bando, then back to 3rd for Molitor... then to DH by Molitor after the Molitor in CF experiment didn't take. Money definitely has a spot on the all time team, but I'm not sure where... probably the utility guy.
  16. It's one thing not to be in position to draft a star, but drafting pure garbage with a 6 pick and an 8 pick in back to back years was a killer. Tons of serviceable to good players went after those guys.
  17. How do you know whether they lowballed him? Because we didn't offer him a $125 million contract? The Brewers can't afford to sign Greinke to something like that. You have to be realistic and realize that the Brewers are a small-market team. The fact that they have a $100 million payroll this year doesn't mean they are no longer small-market. $100 million is not sustainable long-term. I'd counter by asking how do you know this? Have you seen the books? By all accounts, the Brewers get new TV money next season, and no one knows what that is. I'm not sure that a payroll in the $100 million range is unsustainable with attendance in the 3 million range. A ton of money is coming off the books this off season. I don't think that it's absurd to give Greinke something in the low 20's. Let Wolf walk, and stop wasting money on the bullpen and guys like Ramirez. You are going to have to pay for starting pitching anyway and there will be a ton of open spots in the rotation. Bottom line, would you rather have Marcum, a guy like Braden Looper and a rookie or Greinke and two rookies?
  18. I watched both of them, and Weeks is such a superior player that it's not even funny. I disagree strongly. Weeks has Gantner on power and walking, that's it. Though he had Jamey Carroll power, Gantner was far more consistent at the plate- almost never struck out (Weeks K's this season would account for 15% of Gantner's career total). I'd also say that he was a better fielder. Gantner was also a guy with intangibles that help a team win. More specifically, Weeks has more brain farts in a week than Gantner had in a year. Like most of the 'Glory Era' Brewers, Gumby started to hit the wall a bit in the mid 80's, and also was never the same after getting roll-blocked by Marcus Lawton in '89.
  19. Look at the last five picks. All were flyers with fairly high picks, I'll give them a 25% success rate and an incomplete on Harris (who showed potential at times last season). Two of these guys were unmitigated busts, and I'm not a fan of Sanders either. I know that a lot of people love Sanders elsewhere, but he looks as bad on offense as Gooden is on defense. Unless he does turn in to a Theo Ratliff clone, he's never going to be a solid starter in the league. I sure hope that they don't take another flyer this year. More specifically, if they draft Meyers Leonard or some 'toolsy' guy from a small school that has 'rocketed up their board', I'm going Elvis on my TV.
  20. Uggla is a good one. I forgot about him.
  21. What Hardy is doing now has nothing to do with whether the Brewers traded him or not. He's been a free agent. The Brewers were free to try and resign him. Thanks in large part to Doug, Hardy never hit free agency. He had the choice to, but chose to sign an extension with Baltimore in-season. Imagine that, a guy not 'testing the market'. Can't blame the guy for taking the sure money on the table...he was probably gun shy after he got sent to Nashville for a few weeks to knock his service time back.
  22. Latos brought back Volquez, Yonder Alonzo and Yasmani Grandal. What am I missing on Alonso? He's basically put up the same stats as Ishikawa this season, but Ishikawa has been hurt and/or a part time player.
  23. What is that supposed to mean? That the Brewers haven't been negotiating with him honestly up to this point? No. It means that they almost certainly lowballed him as they apparently did with C.C. and Prince. In the end, if Greinke walks, Attanasio is 0 for 3 in retaining star free agents, and this during an 'upswing' of the franchise with the accompanying attendance. Not good.
  24. Agreed that it all hinges on Greinke. In my view, Attanasio needs to go big or go home, because with no Greinke, this team is sunk. I hear all this talk about how ZG wants to win, etc., but in the end money talks. If the Brewers trade him before holding good faith negotiations, I will be livid. The offense and bullpen have been horrendous this season, but I think that they can be tweaked and with luck improved. That said, a rotation of Gallardo and ?,?,?,? is almost guaranteed to be bad. On the other hand, any team with a one two like Greinke and Gallardo has a shot. If I've said this once, I've said it a dozen times on here, but in my view the only trading chip with real value is Greinke. You may get something decent for Marcum, and that's it, unless you want to move your core guys. Getting anything for guys like KRod, Morgan, etc. is a pipe dream. In the end, I just hope that they don't start making trades for the sake of making trades, especially with a barren farm system. Last time this happened, Dean Taylor made this team unwatchable for a few years, trading one guy after another for 'prospects' or 'guys' that other teams felt expendable. He fleeced Cleveland for Sexson, but every other trade brought pretty much pure garbage in return. I guess that I don't buy into the idea that it is possible to replenish a farm system by solely trading guys. It's going to take a few good drafts and several years for that to happen. In the meantime, I don't want to endure another long stretch of brutal baseball.
  25. Not matching Yankees offer for Sabathia. Now THAT would have been going "all in." WS Title last year very likely with Sabathia/Greinke/Yo. Although that may have been a Mark A decision, not Melvin Making a market offer to C.C. or Sheets (had he not been injured) was pretty much rendered impossible by the fact that they were all in on Soup for almost $30 million after 2008. I will never understand why the Brewers wanted Suppan so bad. I don't remember anyone else- including the Cardinals- having any serious interest in him. They were acting like a kid with money burning a hole in their pocket that winter. Remember when they were spurned by Dave Roberts? (thank God one other team had interest) They were like the guy at an auction who showed up for something cool, got outbid for it after standing around all day, and then ended up overpaying for something just to come away with 'something'.
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