[quote author=jazzytrav wrote: [/b]I understand defining it to an extent, but if you're up by a run and have two lefties coming up in the 9th, I see no reason why Axford gets the call just because he's "the closer." Same with the 8th and the "setup man." (sorry, bit of leftover Yost rage...I haven't been around here in awhile) Defined roles are fine as long as everyone understands that those roles can be tweaked at any time for the betterment of the team and depending on the situation. Then it requires a manager with the guts to make an intelligent bullpen decision rather than the "accepted" one. And the "save" statistic just needs to go away...far, far away. Almost every manager does it. There are very few managers who don't have a designated closer. Getting upset with a manager about it is like getting upset with snow in Wisconsin in January. It is just the way it is.