So, just for clarification, in 2010...you'll be thrilled when Suppan, Gallardo, Bush, Parra, Looper (or Looper equal, sweetnlow, or whatever sugar subsitute you prefer) is trotted out as the rotation? Nobody would be thrilled with that rotation, but it is solid unless they all underperform like they did this year. I don't see how guys with career norms of .480 winning baseball get you an expected win total of 85-79. There are much better things to use than win%. I guess you would rather go with Looper than Gallardo if you are using win %. Looper does have a much better win % than Gallardo this year. Just curious, what did BP have as our expected W-L before the season? BP had us at 85 wins preseason.S