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I am pretty excited for the Walking Dead as well. Tonight I will watch Its Always Sunny and The League for sure. The pilot for Terriers was really good, but thats pretty much what I expected from Shawn Ryan. I am also looking forward to Justified if that ever comes back for a second season.

In his 9 big league throws he hit 98.3 on PitchFx. I don't think its out of the question he could touch 100+.

However, I still find it hard to get overly excited about a 24 year old who missed two full years due to injuries. By the time he's allowed to go 200 innings he'll probably be 28 and in his arbitration years (This is the first year he's pitched over 100 innings). That's assuming he avoids additional injuries. If he can stay healthy for 2 or 3 straight years and shows better control, then maybe I'll start to get excited about him. It sucks he has missed time, but he threw 91 innings the year he was drafted, 98 his second year, and this year will probably hit 125-130. Next year he will hopefully get to 150ish, some of that in the majors without burning service time as a 25 year old. Then at 26 he is slated for around 185 innings in his first year of team control. After that if everything goes to plan he can go 200 innings for 5 years through age 32. This is Yo's 3rd year of MLB service time and it will be the first year he goes over 200 innings so this isn't all that unusual. The guy is still young and can touch 100 mph with movement. He has a plus curveball and a developing change. I truly believe he will be a top 40-30 prospect this offseason according to BA. I am the eternal pessimist when it comes to pitching prospects, but with all of this info how can you not be excited?

Wether or not this post is serious, its hilarious. I bet Sheeter would even find it amusing.

Those who've read my posts know that I've been very dubious of what Fielder would bring back. When I heard on Chicago radio in early July that the Sox had interest in Fielder, my first and only thought was Daniel Hudson, who fit every description of what the Brewers needed. He was young, he was major league ready, he had good stuff and he had success in the minors. I had seen him pitch last year when he was called up in September and really liked him. My thought at the time was the Sox would be the ones that wouldn't make that deal. I would have made it in a heartbeat and posted to that effect at the time. I could not believe it when I read the Brewers turned it down because they projected him no higher than a 3rd or 4th starter. Then I got to thinking about it. Hudson wasn't a first rounder. He was a 5th rounder. A lot of scouts including those employed by the Brewers missed the boat on this guy just 2 years ago. Their egos and need to protect their reputations aren't going to let them admit that they missed badly on a guy just 2 years later. The bottom line is Melvin relied on the wrong people. Yes, the most logical reason the Brewers passed on Hudson is because of Melvin and their scouts egos. Give me a break.

We're comparing Braun to Yount now? Braun has never had a 5 WAR season. Yount was 10.5 WAR in 82, and was over 5 WAR 5 other times, 3 of those times over 6. Myself, like Logan, wishes Braun didn't suck on defense. Don't get me wrong, Yount was amaizing, especially his 2 MVP years. But wasn't WAR calculated differently before 2002?

His FIP is also pretty good. At AA I am more concerned with his strikeout rates and stuff than ERA. Control often comes last but the tools and potential are off the charts. Plus his pitching will translate well to getting MLB hitters out as oposed to a guy like Hendrickson who will have great numbers that won't translate to the bigs. BA weighs this heavely when ranking their pitching prospects and I expect them to continue this trend with Rogers.

If either of them make the list next year, I don't see how Rogers would be ahead of Jeffress. I would guess that Jeffress would be in the top 75 at best. I don't see how or why Rogers would crack the top 100. He had a decent year...nothing great. If the Brewers had pitching prospects that were the equivilent to Fielder and Weeks before they got to the majors, I could possibly get more excited. Guys like Strasburg, Lincecum, Bumgarner, etc....but Jeffress and Rogers?...meh. I think you are severely discounting the year that Mark had. He was already considered a top prospect because of his tools before his injury, which have returned. He had success at AA (in fact more success than a lot of the prospects in the 40-50 range). I really would be shocked if he doesn't even crack the top 100.

That's seems a bit optimistic. Neither of these guys were on Baseball America's top 100 list at the beginning of the season. Neither of them made the mid-season top 25. I realize that those lists are not the "gospel" and a player can still have a successful career without ever being on one of those lists, but I think if these guys were on any other team, we would not think as highly of them. Them not being on BA's top 100 list is pretty circumstancial at this point (and for the record Jeffress was actually on it even with the suspention at #100). You can bet they will be on there this offseason. And before Mark got hurt, he was #44 in 2006. I would guess he jumps up into the top 30. Jeffress we hopefully will see in the top 50. If they stay healthy they will move up quick as they become more well known in the upper levels.

I'll pass on the obvious conflict here (i.e. the effects of smoking marijuana on a person) and point out that marijuana is still illegal. So is speeding, yet everyone does it. If the guy wants to take bong rips in the comfort of his own home, and takes care of his business on the field who are we to complain.

While its fun to speculate, does anyone here really think we have a realistic shot at Lee? If they do, I think they are kidding themselves.

Sorry, I can't really understand what you are saying. If you are asking about broadcast revenue, Wendy signed some horible deals that we had to work through but the new ownership group leveraged a new deal last season when ratings were at an all time high after the playoff run.

Every other year under Attanasio.

This is the first year under Mark they will lose money, and Mark said they would from the start of the season even if they broke $3 mil in attendance. He also said he spoke with the other owners and got them to sign off on a lose this year. Personally, I think he upped the payroll to $90 mil to make up for the sunk costs of Hall and a few others. It was a one time deal in which they wanted to take a chance and make a push after they pulled in a profit the last couple of years. Regardless, it is in no way the same old song. The Brewers have shown that they can break even or make a profit by drawing around $3 mil fans and start with a payroll around $82 mil with a few moves during the year depending on how they are doing. This year was a special case and Mark was very open about it from the beginning. Additionally, 2 years from now is when the new TV deal kicks in that will provide an additional $10 mil of revenue a year. So if they can get back to maximizing revenue out of Miller Park a $90 mil + payroll isn't out of the question. Look at how far we have come in the last 5 years. In terms of the Brewers financials being leaked, the state senate did an audit on the Brewers a couple years back when Wendy was the owner. It was pretty scary how in debt they were. In fact, it showed just how much money they were losing. I suggest you check it out (google it, the whole thing is online as a pdf) because it sounds like you are implying that Mark is trying to pull one over on us when he has been extremely forthcoming, and in my opinion generous, to the payroll and the general public.

Thank god McGehee will be alowed to reach the extreamly important mark of 100 rbi's at the detriment of a young players development.

Agreed. If he wants to smoke and he handles the rest of his business, why should we be concerned. Its not like there aren't players who are alcoholics, which is much more likely to detrimentally effect your performance on the field. Nobody ever told Wade Boggs to put down that 64th beer because the game was about to start.

Yea, as exciting as it is to have these guys on the team right now, they are definitely still a year or more away from being solid contributors at the MLB level.

I can't believe we have devoted this much time to arguing about CJ Wilson.

That's funny. You conveniently left out a few years there. Rogers jumped from 64 innings last year to 116 and counting this year. Thats a 52 inning increase, and he's not even done yet. Or maybe I am saying that he is expected to throw around 125 innings this year since he was already built up in the past. He is in somewhat uncharted territory just like Yo, so if going strong the organization will continue to build him up to the level he should be at. I know you are out to prove a point, reason be damned, but surly you can see the difference between just jumping 51 innings and Rogers' situation. Its similar to Yo, who the Brewers built back up based on where he was before injury, cutting him off when his effectivness started to fade. Regardless, if in your mind Rogers' situation indicates the Brewers don't believe in the "innings jump risk" then I strongly disagree with your reasoning and conclusion and I think most people would. In regards to C.J. Wilson, he has thrown 177 innings so far after throwing 73 innings (+104 IP) last year and averaging around 50 since joining the bigs. In the minors he did get to 136 IP 8 years ago, but that is still a monumental jump I wouldn't want a pitcher on the Brewers to make.

All those Mainers know about is lobster and trees. Maine is barely even a state! Live and die by the lobster. We'll eat off the fat of the sea!

In case it hasn't been posted, no call up for Rivas per the JS: One of the Brewers' pitching prospects, right-hander Amaury Rivas, is in Milwaukee to undergo his motion analysis, which will detect any red flags that might signal potential injury because of flawed mechanics. However, the Brewers won't make Rivas a September call-up, as they did with Mark Rogers who is also in town for the analysis. General manager Doug Melvin said Rivas had pitched enough this season - 141 2/3 innings with Class AA Huntsville, with a 3.37 earned run average - and there was no need to push him further. Rivas was the organization's 2009 minor league pitcher of the year.

Exhibit A: Mark Rogers. I don't need to go any further. Exhibit B: Amaury Rivas shut down for the rest of the year due to high innings. I don't need to go any further. Exhibit C: Mark Rodgers pitched 91 innings the year he was drafted. The next year he pitched 98.2. This year he is at 116. Wait, what exactly were you trying to prove again?

That would be terrible. One year of a guy who isn't even an ace and whose innings jumped by a tremendous amount this year. . Wilson has a 3.10 ERA despite pitching his home games in the best hitters park in the AL. He's more WAR this year than Fielder. The innings jump risk is a completely unproven theory. I don't believe in it, and niether do the Brewers. Oh boy, where to start. First, I would love to see any kind of evidence you can find on why the Brewers don't believe in the "innings jump risk" as you put it. I wonder why they limited Yo's innings last year since they don't believe in it. Second, I am pretty surprised someone would use ERA and WAR in the same post. The only reason to do that would be to further help your argument, since if you bothered to look deeper you would realize Wilson has been aided by a BABIP of .262 while his strikeouts are down and his walks up from being a reliever. As TooLiveBrew said, everything about his season screams career year, and even then it is not ace caliber as you alleged. Third, Wilson has more WAR this year than Prince? Are you using Baseball Reference's crap calculations instead of Fangraphs? Wilson has 3.8 WAR this year (good no doubt) but Prince is up to 4.0 now and will likely keep adding to that while Wilson will most likely tire as he nears 200 innings. Add to that, their total WAR over the last 5 years (2006-2010 when both of them started being MLB players for good) and its not even close: Prince - 20.2 | Wilson - 6.6. I'm sorry, I don't really think your trade proposal is likely or makes sense for either side. No reason to argue with me by making stuff up, you are not going to change my opinion or anyone else's that way.

Because the owners wouldn't let him. Let's not let that stop us from imagining that they would somehow let him buy the Brewers though.

In my opinion, it is an absolute travesty that this guy was ejected from the game and ticketed for this remark. Though it can be interpreted many ways, at it's face- it is not vulgar or a slur of any kind. I think the umpire and the catcher need to get over themselves.Thats the kind of heckling I don't mind. Sure its not too clever or player specific, but he can yell it and it will go over kid's heads. Much better than Carp dropping an F-bomb everyone in the first 50 rows can hear.