I think we are over rating our pitching. Relief pitching is great, no concerns there. Starting pitching though? Woodruff and Burnes (assuming we get 2020 Burnes) are top notch 1 and 2 guys... What do we have after that? 3 question marks to round out the rotation but nothing more. We need 5 guys to fill a rorttion, and having 3-5 being what we have, I don't see that as being a strength. We can't win the division with a crappy line-up, 2 good/great starters, and an excellent bullpen. The line-up part is going to kill us. How do we intend to score runs when the 3-5 are starting? Our starting pitching is going to have to put up a lot of 0's if we intend on winning. Our 1 and 2 can probably do that, but days when our 3-5 are starting, and we can't score runs due to our horrid offense, we aren't going to win a lot of those games. How do we intend on scoring runs when Woody and Burnes pitch? They may shut down the other team, allow 2 or 3 runs, but that might be all it takes to beat us on most days. I think it is great you guys have a positive attitude and can be optimists, but I'm a realist, and there is no way this line-up is going to score enough runs to get us to the post season.