Yes, i do see your point. I was thinking that the Reds already have plenty of offense, but their pitching is extremely weak. Zack and Latin Cappy have major league experience and major league stuff. The Reds won't be getting a number one starter and an all-star closer but those two still have some decent prospect type value. Plus, Mench becomes their 4th outfielder making room for Josh Hamilton everyday. Also, they have Jay Bruce and Joey Votto just about ready to join the big club. That would leave them with Dunn, Hamilton, and Bruce in the OF, Freel or Brandon Phillips at third and Votto at first. I don't know, I don't think the Reds would hang up on the Brewers or anything if the trade was suggested.