Didn't Braun use a small sample only referring to the Cubs series? I didn't hear him saying anything after Burns gave a quality start against New York. 1) Braun was specifically referring to the Cubs series - TH and others who didn't read the comments closely are the ones who took it out of context. B) Even if he wasn't referring to just the Cubs series, it wasn't just Burns and McClung that have pitched poorly. Remember, before they had those two they had a month of abysmal Parra starts which led to his demotion and a month of Bush's abysmal starts because he wasn't properly diagnosed with his injury, which is a topic for another thread. If you take a look at what Burns and McClung have done in combination with what Parra and Bush did the last month they pitched you end up with 40% of a team's starts being pretty much garbage for the last six weeks. Bush in his last six starts went from a 3.74 ERA to 5.67; Parra in his last five went from 4.57 to 7.52. To rise that high that quickly is way worse than replacement level, and must have been very frustrating to play through. 3) So to an extent, and to paraphrase a line Sam Kinnison used to say in his schtick, "I don't support (it), but I understand it." Technically, given that "but" is an eraser word, my line should be, "I understand it, but I don't support it." Both Braun and Melvin were wrong. Meet in private, discuss in private, move on. 4) For those of you who think that Jack Z. is the one mostly responsible for the success of the team, I say he is just as much a part of the problem as he has been the solution. Why? Here is a list of pitchers currently on the Brewers that he drafted: Yo Gallardo Mitch Stetter Manny Parra, while drafted, has been more of the problem than the solution this year. So for everything that Jack Z. has given them for bats, he has not given them for arms. For as much as Melvin was criticized for having a poor bullpen the last few years, he is the one responsible for bringing in Hoffman, DiFelice, Smith, and Coffey, not to mention Suppan and Looper. He's had to, because Jack Z. has given him little to work with in terms of arms. You can even take that a step further, and if you look at Nashville the list of pitchers drafted by Jack Z. include Parra, Dillard, and Dave Johnson. So not only has Melvin had to go outside of the organization to get 11 of the 13 pitchers on the major league squad, but he's had to get all but three of the pitchers in Nashville. Jack Z. can find bats alright, but as far as arms... not so much.