That's exactly my point. Frankly, no one will convince me that Punto isn't horrible and worse than Betancourt- we all can agree to disagree on that. As for the second guessers, I don't get it- If Punto had played in every game at shortstop with solid defense and was hitting over .300, I could see the 20/20 hindsight. In reality, he can't stay healthy and has played one game at shortstop, so this argument makes no sense. In the end, Alcides has been horrible at the plate this year. Had the Greinke trade not been made, he would have been 'penned in' as the starter. No matter how much you hate Betancourt, it would be tough to argue that he's not at least been a push with 2011 Escobar.I agree with the bolded part. THIS YEAR, yes, it's very debatable which one helps a team more. Going forward, I think more people would want Escobar, simply because he has a ceiling that he hasn't (and admittedly may not) reach. He could get better. He may not, but he could. Betancourt is at an age where you can look at his very best seasons, and see that those are clearly in the rearview mirror at this point. But again, I digress, both of them have more or less completely sucked this year, and it's a coin toss to which one you'd rather have I guess.