As Russ pointed out, that is true of all managers. They are hired to be fired. That's for sure. Before Macha, the Brewers had fifteen managers, counting Bamberger twice and not counting McMillan (1972, 2 games) and Kuenn (1975, 1 game). Two of them (both Bamberger) left on their own accord. And before Melvin, the team had seven GMs. Jim Wilson was the only one that wasn't fired. He left to take a job with Major League Baseball. Kuenn.... the right guy at the right time. Let the guys play. His health problems pretty much ensured a short reign. Harvey was certainly a manager who was brought on because it was felt that a different personality was required. We still see that today. Had the team not been in the World Series, he probably would have been out after the 1982 season. I suppose Dalton found himself in a zim zam and felt forced to keep him on. Really, I think that since day one of Macha, we're playing at least 10 games below what we'd have with Yost. Assuming 10 games vs. 10 wins, I still think that's pretty extreme given the low regard for both managers. Even the statheads, who feel that the difference between top and bottom isn't that much, put Yost pretty low. Anyway, kind of like in the demoralized topic, I don't think "disdain" fits my feelings. "Frustration" would probably be more accurate. But as others have mentioned, so many managers stick to the same old tacks; I really can't count doing that against them. They really have to do some pretty extreme things to really get my goat.