I shortchanged myself a little bit in my initial post, partially because any definition is going to be a little bit fuzzy but I never said they had to retire with the Brewers only that one should think about that kind of longevity is a potential. My rationale behind that description was that typically people in the past have argued to lock core players up to long term deals like we did with Braun. Now that doesn't guarantee they retire with us for a variety of reasons, but if you are thinking of going with a long term deal you need to be prepared for injury driven retirements and the like. Trying to be too specific on length of deals for core players gets pretty crazy because even a 5 year deal on someone like Shaw could go south by the time he's 32. I wouldn't worry hugely about it, but it starts to enter my mind. It also depends on young vs. old player skills and just a bunch of other things. Every player is a separate conversation about where is that line. So while unclear I think I've been relatively consistent. If people want to define 'core' as important guys that's fine, but I do not understand how that helps figure out who to trade, extend, or release. I'm comfortable with a definition that says we have a lot of good interesting players who could be here for a few years or might all be moved to let younger prospects play.