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I’ve been saying this for years. It’s never going to happen because advanced analytics say it isn’t worth doing that. In my opinion these advanced analytics are one of the big causes for baseball’s demise.

I’m also a Brewers lifer (which I’m sure most of us here are), and I disagree. To me it all comes down to expectations, even if they may be unrealistic. Yes, the teams of the late 1990s/early 2000s were not very good (even terrible) but we expected that to be the case. Going to a game then was still entertaining because any day the offense could put up 10 runs so even though they lost A LOT, the games themselves were much more exciting. Because of the change in ownership and the moves that the FO made, we became better and had a few successful seasons. We had some young players (primarily pitching) that gave us hope for some deep postseason runs going into the late 2010s/early 2020s. Obviously 2018 comes to mind when we had a really, really good team. This success raised expectations for the FO to improve the team to get us deep into the postseason a few more times while we had this young, talented pitching. To use the FO terminology, we expected them to make the moves to take BIG bites from the apple, but the FO did not make those moves and they seemed content to just hope things go well enough to be able to take a bite of the apple. They were partly right as the team has made the postseason four years in a row now, but outside of the 2019 season there was basically no realistic chance that they’d make a deep postseason run. Even though the team has been winning games the last few seasons, they way they are built makes for very boring and disappointing games. Relying on the home run and not focusing on situational hitting has made them very hard to watch. Any given day they seem like they could be easily no-hit. Not being able to drive in runners causes the pitching to have to be perfect (and this isn’t the case this year) so our 2-1 leads quickly evaporate when we don’t get a hit for 5 innings. All this being said, yes, the team is winning more now compared to 20 years ago, but they are playing a very boring style of baseball that is hard to watch, and they aren’t playing to the level that we’d have expected them to be playing at after the 2018 success. The window with the good pitching is essentially closed.

He put on a Brewers uniform. That takes .050 to .080 off of your BA almost immediately.

I think Dillard can be a little annoying but he just said something in the postgame show that I thought was clever. He said it was a “tale of two strike zones” tonight and it was “the best of strike zones and the worst of strike zones.” Anyone familiar with the Dickens classic will catch the reference.

I remember seasons that were very similar: 2020 and 2021. Both were wasted years where the offense wasn’t improved enough for the team to have a realistic chance of making it deep into the postseason. But we had those bites!

I can’t imagine they’d want to stay here for a hometown discount. Not only is the offense putrid, the front office has demonstrated that they will not supplement the offense enough to make a real difference and help the team make it deep into the postseason.

Agreed. Even though we knew they weren’t going to make the postseason, individual games were entertaining as there was a chance that the offense would put up enough runs. No hope of those years > false hope of the last few seasons. These seasons have been extremely disappointing. That wasn’t the case back then.

Interesting to see these comments from Lauer about how the trade deadline was handled. https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/eric-lauer-calls-out-brewers-front-office-for-trade-deadline-moves-01gb2ydka35a/partners/36534?fbclid=IwAR369kLEBZaedEBEl1O47x07U1IeXEuQCNSkxJEVXyMtbbLTVM0O-UeUAMU

That should have been an error.

Today has a feeling like we’ll get no-hit.

Uggh, Rock. “There’s a reason they call him on-base Jace. You can play him anywhere.” No, that’s not why, Rock.

Probably the most demoralizing loss for the season. Stick a fork in them, they’re done.

I guess I didn’t entirely mean financially. I meant more that they don’t do enough to build a complete team. That definitely means financial for the Brewers, but for the Packers, they’ve relied on Rodgers carrying the offense while having sub-par defenses. That works during the regular season, but when playing better teams in the postseason it’s much more difficult for Rodgers to carry them. He needs to be perfect almost every game, and obviously that hasn’t been the case with all of our sub-par postseason losses. Now the Packers have a good defense (which was the problem for many years) and they put possibly the worst special teams unit out in NFL history last season. They never have a complete team, except in 1996, 1997, and 2014 (puke). Even in 2010, they just had an amazing run to win the Super Bowl.

This is why Wisconsin sports teams can get away with just doing enough to keep the teams competitive without spending more to actually take it to the next level. We are too faithful.

Great, Yelich is now our version of Brant Brown.

Fair enough. I was too young in 1982 (only 3 at the time) so I don’t remember the “best we’ve had). I do remember the late 80’s teams being exciting and even the early 90’s, but it was too hard to make the postseason at that time with no wild card. My teenage though mid-20s years the team was complete garbage. I even had a 20-pack in the wonderful 2002 season and was at loss 100. Of course being competitive is better, but never progressing can be even more disappointing than having regular sub-.500 teams. Don’t get me wrong, being at the first postseason game in 2008 was amazing, and our runs in 2011 and 2018 were awesome, but knowing that the team hasn’t taken advantage of the best pitching window in franchise history is demoralizing and continuing to go forward with this approach is extremely disappointing.

I’d much rather the Brewers do a full tear down than just hope that the team can make it to the postseason (vs. actually assembling a more complete team). This “take more bites from the apple” isn’t cutting it as the team has a very unlikely realistic chance of progressing deep into the postseason.

I think so too because I honestly don’t believe the Brewers will ever win one, unless they get an owner that is willing to spend. I really thought we’d have a chance within the last few years after the 2018 run, but they didn’t do enough to address the offensive holes.

Ok, bring someone else in

Uggh

A nice clean inning for Bush. Was worried when he got behind the first few batters but he got through it nicely.

I know it’s not a must-win game, but if the Brewers really want to make the postseason they need to start winning series. That HR could be huge.

Wow, Adames!

You didn’t specify which team…