with these established league, many of these teams actively play for next year when plans go awry so coming in cold is certainly a disadvantage. Especially in the auction when you don't know bidding patterns. It's a lot like poker. A lot of the times the teams that are "vacated" are the ones in the middle, who need two or three years of attention to guide back. Building is half as fun as winning (or so I hope, 3rd is the best I have finished, which was still a nice little payday) In my league, which I have been in for 8 years now, one team has changed hands 5 times and is middle to bottom every year simply because of lack of direction. And that said, we have SEVERAL teams (4, I think) open this winter if anybody wants to give this style a go. Classic Roto 4x4, NL only, $130. Phone Auction. My best friend and I have been in the league for a while and have more fun playing against each other than anybody else.