You are way overvaluing Carlos Lee here, he was not bringing back any good pitching prospect for 1/3 year of service. The only problem with this deal was that we gave up Cruz in it, Cordero for Lee was a win for us. Lee falls into that good but not star level player range and those guys don't bring back big prospects for partial seasons. Also I question whether we needed pitching prospects then, this big hole in our pitching depth didn't appear until 2008. In 2007 we had a rotation of Suppan, Bush, Sheets, Capuano, Vargas and Villanueva with Parra and Gallardo knocking on the doorstep as well and it looked like we had some other young pitching that might pan out. Pretty much the same thing with the Doug Davis deal, we gave up basically no real talent with no upside and we got back what ended up being no talent but at least had some upside, if that is the biggest strike against Melvin he is going to look good. People still fail to look at the fact that Estrada was hitting before his injury and Vargas was pitching well before his with a 4.30 ERA and peripherals that supported it going into August when he suffered through back problems. This deal had a chance to be a win for him, it just wasn't because guys got hurt. The Suppan deal has been his biggest mistake by far and I'm one of those that believe Mark A. had something to do with it. The Hall deal was one I didn't like but it shouldn't have been as bad as it turned out either, there was just no way to know he would completely fall apart instead of sliding back to mediocrity. Looper was probably more pitching through an injury than anything, the expectations should have been a high 4 ERA pitcher and the pay was about right, maybe a tad high but at that point we were a bit desperate, but that does agree with your fact that paying for older mediocre guys can be pretty bad. The whole Gagne thing was just weird all around. I think the biggest problem we have faced is missing on too many pitchers in the system. When you look around the league over the past 10 years it is hard to find a team that has brought up fewer successful starters than the Brewers have. Buying mediocre free agent pitching isn't a choice Melvin made because he wanted to, it is because we have completely failed to develop our own pitching which is absolutely essential for everyone but the big market teams.