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I don't think anyone would argue that there is a huge difference between McClung and Chamberlain. Also I agree Chamberlain should be in the bullpen, and I think Hughes should be in their rotation.
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And then when Halladay leaves after next year or demands to be traded before the season starts it will take the Brewers longer to get the talent back that they just traded away. This would cause the 20+ years of no playoffs again and you are back where you started but this time you are even worse off.And what IF acquiring Halladay wins you a World Series this year or next?? Then I'd say it was well worth it wouldn't you??And what IF keeping all those prospects wins a couple World Series also. Then you would say it was well worth keeping them wouldn't you? The desire for immediate gratification is hard to resist even when it defies your better judgment.
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I'm sure glad you don't.
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I think some fans get way too caught up in the hype. Halladay happens to be the expensive toy that everyone wants their daddy to buy for them. Just because the Brewers don't give away the farm for Halladay, does not mean there aren't other smarter options to explore before the trade deadline and in the offseason. I think the Brewers will acquire a pitcher before the deadline, but it probably won't be Halladay. And I guarantee the rotation will not be the same next year. Melvin will not simply stand pat, but whatever he does he needs to make sure it's the right decision for the team now AND in the future.
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Thankfully, Doug Melvin does not have this attitude. If he did, we wouldn't even be having this conservation because we would still be a perennial cellar dweller. Just remember the Brewers roster is made up largely of former Brewers' farmhands.
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And the Cardinals continue to deplete their farm system down to nothing. I'm surprised they didn't throw in Rasmus too. Thanks for not being a moron Doug.
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You can just spit on the dollar estimates if you like, but they are very useful comparative tools. I for one can say I find your outright dismissal of them really frustrating in these discussions. Here's what I find frustrating: This obsessive over-reliance on statistics to determine a player's current and future worth. Face it, if there was one sure-fire predictive measure, there would be no reason to play the game anymore. Everyone would already know what was going to happen. Baseball is played by real people, therefore there is no measure that will ever accurately determine how well a player will perform. Outcomes in baseball are too complex and dynamic for any statistical measure to ever have true predictive value. I think you have to consider BOTH statistics and what the naked eye tells you about a player, and even then you have to consider yourself lucky to somewhat accurately predict a player's production.
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You mean he looks like everyone does in a slump. The concern thats he's lost it would be if he's lost batspeed. I don't see that, and no one has suggested it. To assume a good player who's slumping has completely lost it is usually a wrong assumption. He has poor hand position (his hands are too low). Look at where his hands are compared to any good hitter in baseball (Mauer, Pujols, Suzuki, or even Braun and Fielder). Sure he can drive the ball with that nice backspin Bill Schroeder likes to talk about, but his timing has to be just right due to his hand position. Otherwise he pops the ball up or hits a lazy fly ball. Also pitchers are working him more and more with offspeed stuff out away from him, and he has failed to make necessary adjustments. He either swings and misses at these pitches or hits a weak grounder. This is a large part of what has happened with Hall and Hart (although I have to give credit to Hart... he is doing a better job with this than Hardy).
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Thats only true if you assume Hardy hits next year like he has so far this year, and thats a bold assumtion. This is his worst offensive year of his career. More likely, this is an outlier. If Hardy hits next year like he did last year, he'd be worth about $15 million more than Escobar. It's not a bold assumption if you watch Hardy's at bats. He shows absolutely no signs of making adjustments with his swing or to how pitchers are attacking him.
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How about Hall+prospect for Rolen?
paulmolitor4 replied to paulmolitor4's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Nobody in this thread said anything about 2nd or 3rd tier prospects for him. -
Penny to Brewers?
paulmolitor4 replied to Hate those Rodents's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Lots of pitchers might be worth that compared to Burns. Just don't trade prospects for a guy that "might" be a slight improvment. -
How about Hall+prospect for Rolen?
paulmolitor4 replied to paulmolitor4's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
You're right. Silly me. Why try to improve the team? Having Rolen playing third and batting behind Fielder would improve the team. Having McGehee and Counsell off the bench instead of starting would improve the team. -
How about Hall+prospect for Rolen?
paulmolitor4 replied to paulmolitor4's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Are you implying that Hall's roster spot has no value? In my opinion he's taking away a roster spot from hundreds, maybe even thousands of players. Maybe he's taking away a roster spot from you. I don't know how good of a hitter you are. Could you bat above .200? -
How about Hall+prospect for Rolen?
paulmolitor4 replied to paulmolitor4's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
The point is ridding ourselves of the black hole that is Bill Hall. -
Not a bad idea. It would give us a nice bat behind Fielder. It's kind of along the lines of my Hart for Dye idea (probably could only happen in the offseason as the White Sox are in contention).
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Saves the Jays money, and gives us a bat to put behind Fielder. Maybe they wouldn't do it, but hey, I'm just trying to find a creative way to get rid of Hall.
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Penny to Brewers?
paulmolitor4 replied to Hate those Rodents's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
The point is somebody like Cody doesn't cost anything to give a chance. Somebody like Penny is going to cost you, and you already know he isn't going to give you much based on what he has done so far this season. Why go after Penny when it's not the type of move that's going to put you over the top? To me, it would just be a waste move. -
I think the debate comes down to who you think the real J.J. Hardy is... I for one think we are seeing the real J.J. Hardy right now. Someone who is probably to stubborn to make any adjustments to his swing, and has miserably failed at adjusting to how pitchers are attacking him now. Will he grow up and figure things out? Maybe. I just would just prefer to let him figure it out with someone else and very soon so the Brewers can get maximum return for him. Trust me, I want Hardy to turn it around this year, but I'm not holding out hope at all. Right now I would predict he will be lucky to hit .240 at the end of the year, and to make matters worse he's not a good OBP guy.
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Peavy could be had in the offseason. He's younger and signed longer. At the amount he is signed for it may not be worth it considering his recent injury history... Peavy's contract would be crippling for the Brewers! IMO His recent injury had nothing to do with his arm, so I wouldn't worry too much about that, and his contract really isn't that bad considering he's only paid a couple million more than Suppan is right now. I think Peavy's contract tops out at 17 million in 2012, which I don't think will end up being all that much for an ace-type pitcher in a few years.
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I just hope someone else is paying that 10-12 mil.
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Peavy could be had in the offseason. He's younger and signed longer.
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Unfortunately, other teams don't value Hardy as much as some Brewers fans do, otherwise we might have been able to trade him already. I'm really enjoying this huge second half that Hardy is having. Hardy will not be a good hitter again until he figures out he needs to make adjustments just like opposing pitchers have done with him. I just fast-forward his AB's on my DVR. It's far too painful to watch.
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I'm sorry, but that is such a bunch of B.S. I'm so sick and tired of hearing this commentary on Escobar. It may end up being the truth, but I keep hearing people say this like they know this for a fact. Escobar continues make improvements in his offensive game, and it's terribly presumptious to pretend to know how fast he will or will not develop.
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I think you can trade Gamel and still have an eye on the future, but I think trading Escobar would be a very shortsighted move.
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If I had to choose between trading Gamel or Escobar, I would trade Gamel. Shortstop is a far more premium position. I think Melvin said something to that effect this past month in regards to the shortstop position. Basically he said Escobar's don't come along very often.
