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I mean, it's pretty much over with a loss. We've already seen them lose Game 5 and win in 7, so even that doesn't seem like it's 100% over. But lose tonight, and yeah, it does feel over. -
Packer 2021 Team Discussion (Rodgers Out Vs. Chiefs)
OldSchoolSnapper replied to CheezWizHed's topic in Other Sports
He's going to take the massive extension if it exists because it buys out a year of risk while also giving him a raise. No almost-30-year-old athlete is turning that down if he has any half-decent representation, unless he's miserable where he is. He's at the age where I'm half hoping it doesn't work out because I think there's a very good chance this ends up being a pain in the Packers side, but they've been pretty good at this so they'll probably build in an out when he's about 32. -
You're taking "baseball is boring" personally as though I'm talking about your kid or something. I personally don't find baseball "boring," I'm talking about the game's perception among sports fans and people in general. I assumed that was understood in the context of this conversation and considering I have 7400 posts on a baseball fan site. The "baseball is lovely and fine the way it is" thing is great if you don't care about reaching young fans. The reality is that for a TV audience in 2021, no, baseball is not fine. It has a major problem, with its product, accessibility and demographics. About 40% of "avid MLB fans" are over 45. Do you know what that numbers is for the NBA? It's 18%. And this isn't just an age thing; the NBA is doing a FAR better job of aligning with the shifting demographics of this country. Baseball has a problem today, but IMO it is going to have a crisis on its hands in about 20 years without some disruption in TV deals or something, anything.
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Very nice and cordial reply there. I enjoy baseball enough to be a season ticket holder, not really necessary to tell me to go watch Nascar. There are a million reasons a baseball fan can't watch 162, four-hour games. But it's a "boring" sport compared to the others by the traditional sense of the word. If it's not October or the Brewers, frankly it is pretty brutal to watch. It's also hyper-local, where most football fans can tell you the QB of every team, but go ask who the 2B is for teams outside of your division and it's going to be a struggle. So you have a hyper-local sport that they are hell-bent on making difficult to watch locally - yes, that sounds like a true recipe for success. The game may be "evolving" but it has a young fan crisis, you're acting like I'm the first person to say this. In the next few decades, the NBA will supplant the NFL as top dog in this country (my opinion), and it is by far Americas's most popular global sport. They've done an excellent job of cornering the youth market/Instagram generation, partially due to the pace of play, but mostly because they've allowed their superstars to be superstars and drive the league.
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I don't think it's the counting in and of itself that made things worse for the record. But I don't think giving the fans a reason to get hyped up is ever a good thing. And in any competitive game, they are now juiced when he goes to the line. The Bucks shooting FTs shouldn't be a reason the crowd gets into the game and too often it has been. The easy solution is making them, but I was just saying that you have a problem when you groan sending a 70% FT shooter to the line because you're afraid he's going to miss and energize the crowd.
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This was true for me about 10 years ago and what I did every Sunday. I now find non-Packers utterly unwatchable, my interest in fantasy has dwindled, and even the Packers games I end up doing chores, checking in, and then sitting down for the 4th quarter if it's close. I guess I just aged out of it. However I find that I can sit down and watch an NBA playoff game involving just about anyone and watch it. And basketball is not my favorite sport.
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And the vast majority of the beholders find baseball too long and boring. And if we are discussing the televised product, you're not going to grow something that's 4 hours long and happens 162 times. It's completely true that baseball is, by nature...just boring. You can make the game 5 innings, put a gorilla on 2nd base every other inning, and it's still going to be boring. But that doesn't mean MLB can just do nothing and shrug because "that's how the game was meant to be." If they want to solve their TV problem, the games are too long, plain and simple, but the bigger problem is that they are far too inaccessible for even local fans.
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As of 2018 the NBA average game time was 2 hours 18 minutes. That's 45 minutes less than an MLB game. I know that the numbers are what they are, but I would be interested to know what the MEDIAN MLB game is. I've attended and watched plenty of MLB games that run 4+ hours. You will never, ever, see an NBA game go 3.5 hours. The length of game is just one thing, but the variance in length is another. I think the NBA games are paced perfectly. They are just the right amount of time where you could still have a viewing party, and not so long than an 8pm start is a disaster. Baseball is too long. Football is also too long. I watch like one Brewers game a month, and I'm in and out of it. I attend about one a month, and I almost always leave early.
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These guys are hand-fed 95% of their opinions.
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I mean, it's small relatively speaking, but it's 90 shots and he's 47/90. That's really bad. He could hit his next 20 in a row and would be sitting at 61% on the road. He has actually been "fine" in the Finals overall though. Game by game in the playoffs: Away 11/18 = 61.1% Away 7/12 = 58.3% Away 0/3 = 0% Away 6/13 = 46.2% Away 8/14 57.1% Away 4/7 = 57.1% Away 2/7 = 28.6% Away 0/3 = 0% Away 4/6 = 66.7% Away 5/7 = 71.4% Home 13/17 = 76.5% Home 3/4 = 75% Home 6/8 = 75% Home 6/10 = 60% Home 5/10 = 50% Home 4/9 = 44.4% Home 6/7 = 85.7% Home 6/13 = 46.2% The real outlier is that he was awful against both ATL and BKN on the whole, shooting under 50% both series. He's basically been at his season average against Miami and PHX. Also: His median FTA is 10 at home, 7 on the road The Bucks generally do a lot better when he shoots a bunch of FTs, even if he doesn't make them.
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Packer 2021 Team Discussion (Rodgers Out Vs. Chiefs)
OldSchoolSnapper replied to CheezWizHed's topic in Other Sports
I want Rodgers playing QB this year because we have a chance to win a Super Bowl right now, but when I think about this summer it's awfully hard to think of him as anything other than a massive tool. He knew full well he would not sit out the season if he wasn't traded, and he had to know the Packers had about a .01% chance of trading him. It boils this entire thing down to him putting on a show of wah-wah for no real reason other than people knowing he is upset. Like a little 6-year-old would. The end result is probably exactly what it would have been, him playing somewhere else in 2022. I'd probably care more about his feeling if we'd actually won a Super Bowl in the past 10 years. And I know things could and likely will be far worse than they have been, but I am just ready to move on from the guy. -
Again though, the home/road playoff splits tell us that Giannis is 3% below his regular season rate in the playoffs at home (65-62). He is 20% below his regular season on the road (72-52). That's a massive difference. I don't think the counting is accounting for a 20% drop. But the general unfamiliarity/discomfort of the road, the noise, the counting, some coincidence, etc., is accounting for it. The difference between home and road in the NBA has always been the snowball effect. When things go wrong on the road, they seem to continue going wrong for long stretches with the crowd feeding off the game and the officiating feeding off the crowd. It's like a cycle. When you're at home, it doesn't seem to happen the same way.
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He was missing them before the counting, but the counting is what made this a topic and a national headline that every single team's fans have followed. Then every single time he steps to the line, he has all this running through his head. He's a human being. I know BF likes to claim that clutch or whatever isn't a thing, but nobody is going to convince me that the fans, media, whoever you want to blame, didn't make this into a bigger thing than it was for Giannis. My opinion is that it was probably another rough stretch of shooting that he just seems to periodically go through, and all of the compounding factors made it worse. I've never seen him air ball as many as he has in the last month. It's like he airs at least one every road game. I don't care how great he is or how mentally tough he is, air balling FTs is humiliating once. He's done it like 10 times, and in front of the guy who said he has "no skills."
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In fact, if we're using his regular season stats as the baseline...he's 3% below his regular season FT split, at 62% for the playoffs. On the road he is shooting 52% in the playoffs.
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I don't know how this could possibly be concluded. It would depend entirely on the individual. There is no arguing at this point that the counting got into Giannis's head. The same guy air-balling and bricking 55% of these is capable of swishing 8 in a row at home. And again, Giannis really is not a terrible FT shooter, he's not good, but he just became Shaq for about a month these playoffs. Giannis shot 72% on the road and 65% at home from the FT line during the regular season. He was 68% FT shooter during the season and 57% during the playoffs...and I said the counting got into his head. I didn't say anything about him being a worst FT shooter on the road in Charlotte in February. The count chants got into Giannis's head, I'm sorry but they just did. He still made some of the shots but it's clear as day it rattled him and he was getting embarrassed and out of sorts at the line.
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I don't know how this could possibly be concluded. It would depend entirely on the individual. There is no arguing at this point that the counting got into Giannis's head. The same guy air-balling and bricking 55% of these is capable of swishing 8 in a row at home. And again, Giannis really is not a terrible FT shooter, he's not good, but he just became Shaq for about a month these playoffs.
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The issue I have with these kinds of statements is two-fold. One, you can essentially move the measuring stick anywhere you want it to to say that a player can't take over a game. And second, the threshold for taking over a game, using your definition, becomes basically like 7 guys who have ever played basketball. Michael Jordan, and Durant, who is arguably the most efficient, versatile scorer of the last 20 years. With the game tied against Brooklyn in OT, we gave the ball to Giannis, who drove into the lane, threw up an off-balance shot and gave us the lead. It looks easier to do on the surface than hitting a 3, but it really isn't, and very few players can be depended upon the way Giannis is to "just go score, we need a basket." That was his 40th point of the night. If that's not taking over a game, nothing is. His FTs are fair game. He's air-balled like 10 FTs in the playoffs and it is downright embarrassing. But in reality he is a 70% FT shooter that's hit some kind of mental block.
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This doesn't provide any insight as to the length of the shot, but they are almost identically efficient at contested shots this playoffs. https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shots-closest-defender/ Just going off the last game, there was a 2-min stretch where Jrue hit three 3s with a guy right in front of him. I think that Jrue and Khris are frustrating for the exact same reason. When they can shoot, they are elite players, but there are just a smidge too many 3-of-16 games mixed in for them to be considered top tier players.
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It's just an especially freezing take considering the timing. I'm legitimately dumbfounded how anyone who watched the end of the semis, the end of the ECF and the last two Finals games could still say that about Giannis and Khris. It's just one of the effects of being hyper-focused on "our" guys. If you watch the same guys all the time you are destined to find things about them that are frustrating to watch.
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Nobody other than a Bucks fan would say this. Middleton took over the Conference Finals and Giannis has done everything humanly possible to take over the last 2 games of this series. Giannis hit the game-winning shot in Brooklyn. If you limit "take over" to winning the game then Durant didn't "take over" Game 7, which he absolutely did and still lost. This whole Giannis doesn't take over games boils down to Giannis isn't Steph Curry draining threes at the end of a game. Giannis has made scoring 35 points and grabbing 10-15 boards so routine, it is now boring. His FT problems this playoffs are 100% fair play to criticize but seeing the same player night in and night out begins to jade the hometown fans as to how good he is. The fans always become hyper-focused on the nights things went wrong, whereas if you asked someone who's seen Giannis 5 times this year they would have a much more glowing report. As far as Middleton goes, he has a bunch of 10 and 12 points games, but that is precisely what separates guys like Middleton from Giannis. It is a small chunk of players that can be depended upon to score 25 a night, literally all the time. Very few teams have two of those players.
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They have to set the table for their clicks.
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Unfortunately it doesn't. It has another poster saying that it "sounds like Cain has cashed out" because he didn't spend the pandemic offseason training at a closed training facility. And that he maybe didn't run all that much during baseball's offseason, so probably the same thing most baseball players do.
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Sounds like this is 90% conjecture and 10% reality. Cain himself admitted to not staying in shape last season and struggled getting himself game ready this spring. Link please.
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Oh, and Michael Finley > Devin Harris.
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Max contracts are kind of a silly thing to hold against a player because they are essentially what is required to keep any good player on your team. You can't low-ball any quality player because there is almost always some other team willing to max him. It's one of the drawbacks of the whole max deal thing, if you can call it that. Obviously without max deals, LeBron would have a $1 billion contract and it would taper off from there but that's not what we have.
