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  1. mkm13
    I have seen a number of people this year state how deep the organization is in quality prospects compared to what it used to have. For those that have been heavily following the minors for awhile, is this actually true or are some people overvaluing some of the current younger guys?
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    Correct, my understanding is it counts as service time.
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    He has had issues with his elbow and correct he will be a reliever for the immediate future. I am not talking about leaving him in the minors until he builds up the arm strength to be a starter. If I am not mistaken, he still has atleast 2-3 years until he would be ready for a starters role. If you save him in the minors for another year, that is an extra year you can have him as a starter. This years team does not have the starters to be a playoff team this year, IMO wasting Gamel's time as a bench player and potentially using Braddock's time now as a limited reliever is not beneficial long term to the brewers success. The brewers have to rely on younger players with a low salary to be successful...why limit that?
  4. mkm13
    I have said this many times, but Gamel should either be sent down or start every day up here (maybe a day off a week). Why waste his cheap years with us as a bench player? It is tough enough making the jump from AAA to the majors. It is even tougher making it when you are a part timer and see limited pitches and are not able to keep your timing. This is not helping him and he is not helping the team being put in this situation.
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    Why again are we wanting to rush Braddock to the majors? He is a potential ace, why would we want to start using up his cheap years with us as a reliever throwing limited innings?
  6. mkm13
    I have never smoked weed in my life, and I may be more against it than anyone I know...but some people are overreacting here. It could be worse, he could have blown out his arm or have been caught with performance enhancing drugs. A lot of people do it (including athletes), the big issue with this I guess is that he knew he was already caught one time, so that certainly does not show that he is a very smart person. Lets hope he takes this time to clear his head and get rid of his smoking problem. He is still VERY YOUNG. He still has A LOT of potential. I don't really care how much "trade value" he has. Sure this might slow his development some, but I don't want the brewers to trade him anyways. The brewers need as many young pitchers as possible. I really hope he can get over his problems and doesn't blow a huge opportunity with his great talent.
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    What made him drop to the 3rd round? He seems to bring so much to the table already. Does he have Tony Gwynn Jr. type power?
  8. mkm13
    I thought Prince was viewed as a good defensive SS?
  9. mkm13
    Just wondering if anyone could answer BrewPackBucks question? Has Pena signed anywhere yet? Does anyone have a list of players currently in the minor league system who were international free agents? Thanks
  10. mkm13
    People keep bringing up possibly trading Hart. What exactly are people expecting in return for a guy who plays right field and has a .325 OBP?
  11. mkm13
    Unless we get an absolute steal, or the starter we are trading for is young, I would rather us not make the trade. I do not want to see a rent a player this year. This starting rotation is more than 1 pitcher short of being playoff caliber. Make this a transition year, possibly trading Prince/JJ or whoever for top prospects, and set up the Brewers for success the following 5 years. The brewers somehow need a couple more good young pitchers to go along with Gallardo. Right now the closest that is for potentially happening is sitting in the lower levels of the minors and is a few years away.
  12. mkm13
    I agree we couldn't get equal value to Prince in terms of what they would bring this year..but I would be fine with that. I think we could get equal or better value based on Prince for 1.5 years compared to the prospects 5+ years. Somewhere or somehow we need a couple top young pitchers that will be around for 5+ years. Prince should be able to get a couple really good young pitching prospects. I realize we have some good young pitching prospects at the lower minor levels but you can never have enough good pitching. JJ definitly does have value and I do doubt at this time we could get what he is really worth just because his statistics are not the best right now. I would be completely fine with keeping JJ if we can't get good value in return. I just don't see any other player on the roster bringing what we need. Sometimes you have to give up to get.
  13. mkm13
    If we go and trade for a pitcher this year like some want I sure hope it isn't someone that we would only have for a year or 2 and we give up top prospects. IMO this rotation is more than 1 pitcher short of being playoff caliber. Gallardo is our only true top of the rotation pitcher, but he pitched so few innings last year and will likely be limited at times this year so he does not throw to many innings. If I were the brewers, I would try to position myself for the next few years and use this as a transition year. By that I mean maybe trade Prince for a top young pitcher that will be here for awhile or trade JJ if you can get decent value in return.
  14. mkm13
    Completely disagree. From the moment he was called up I said I really hope they do not put him in a pinch hit role because it is just setting him up to fail. It is not easy to get spot at bats and still be successful...especially for a young guy who has never came off the bench before. It is a complete waste of his talent as he has never been in that role before. Gamel needs to be in AAA playing every day or getting more time up here...I don't care which.
  15. mkm13
    This is about whether he was worth 21 million last year. The fact is he couldn't pitch at the end of the year. That has to be taken into account when looking at his value (im not talking regular season). Why play the "what if" game? He couldn't play so his potential during the playoffs shouldn't matter. He himself did not get us into the playoffs. A lot of people got us into the playoffs...he was one of the many. List the teams that would pay a player 21 million dollars for 4 wins during the regular season knowing that once they got to the playoffs he couldn't play. There is none. You have to look at it like that because that is what happened. (pared back long quote --1992)
  16. mkm13
    I am not throwing out a number. I never have. The only number I have thrown out there is that he was not worth 20.6 million LAST YEAR. It did not pass the smell test and is not accurate for the reasons I already explained. This is my last post on this. If people want to continue living in a fantasy world where money grows on trees and think Ben Sheets was worth 20.6 million last year despite missing the playoffs then go ahead. My only suggestion for the future is for people to be able to look past what a number says and find its true meaning. You can get statistics to say a lot of things.
  17. mkm13
    Correct, you do still have to get there. He helped get us there...along with 15 other guys. I am not arguing he didn't have a very good season when healthy. He did. I agree based on runs saved during the regular season he would be worth somewhere close to that assuming he stayed healthy and was able to pitch in the playoffs. Again, teams don't throw that kind of money out there for the hopes of making the playoffs. They do it with the hopes to win the world series.
  18. mkm13
    I have been arguing the same thing from the very beginning. You keep wanting to limit this to "regular season". To find ones value, you can't do that. I know Fangraph only uses regular season, and in Ben's case, that is an issue if you are trying to look at what value he brought to you THAT YEAR. Teams don't pay the big bucks for the hopes of making the playoffs. They pay them with a goal to win the world series.
  19. mkm13
    This entire argument started on whether or not if Sheets was underpaid LAST YEAR. Not if based on his numbers, he would get some future contract or what he would be worth in the future. This is specifically what started it: "He was actually very underpaid. How many of the booing Brewer fans would admit that? This value is according to fangraphs. 2005 Salary 6 mil, Value 12.7 mil 2006 Salary 9.6 mil, Value 14.7 mil 2007 Salary 11.1, Value 9.4 2008 Salary 12.1, Value 20.6" If you are talking about strictly last year, not future years where he could pitch in the playoffs, he WAS NOT worth 20.6 million last year. You have to account for not being able to pitch in the post season. That is a big deal.
  20. mkm13
    And Torii Hunter would be available to play in the post season. Last year Sheets was not. If you are talking about value LAST YEAR, that needs to be heavily considered as no team would pay 21 million on a player that couldn't play in the playoffs. If you are saying Sheets could get a 21 mil a year deal based on his numbers last year (assuming healthy) I would agree. But last year, his value was not 21 million.
  21. mkm13
    You are still not getting what I am saying. The argument was how much he was worth last year, not how much he would be worth in future years based on his numbers last year. In order to get his real value LAST year, you have to take into account he missed the playoffs (that is significant - any team considering paying 21 million a year for a player has a goal of winning the world series...not making the playoffs). You have to take into account what teams would pay assuming they knew he would miss the playoffs. That is the only true way to find his monetary value last year.
  22. mkm13
    Well they were saying his value last year was 20.6 million. When you look at the big picture and the fact he couldn't pitch in the playoffs that is not true. That is my point. He had a great year when he was healthy, but that doesn't mean it was worth 20.6 million.
  23. mkm13
    No I am not struggling with it I understand the missed games at the end of the season were factored in. It is still a point that needs to be made because in general teams will be less likely to give out money to guys that can't/haven't stayed healthy. I know Melvin was somewhat lying, but he mentioned a big reason why they signed Suppan for as much as they did is because he can be counted on every 5th day. Don't think it is as true as he claims, but I do believe Suppan recieved more money because of his durability. Again, this is all hypothetical because when a team looks into signing a player whether injury prone or not, there is still no guarantee he will get hurt or stay healthy the following year. So teams will still sign players based on potential. With this argument we are talking about last year and we know Sheets was not able to go in the playoffs. That is definetly a killer in terms of value. If a team knew a guy couldn't go in the playoffs that kind of money would not be spent.
  24. mkm13
    rluzinski, please point out where I was specifically talking about "regular season" as you point out. Never did. You know as well as I do there are only a few teams that would spend 21 mil a year on a player. ALL of them teams would not spend that much on someone they knew would miss the end of the year and not be able to pitch in the playoffs. If they are spending that much money, their goal is to win the world series. It is completely shocking to me some people are arguing his value last year was 20.6 million and that you of all people would defend it. I realize his production when he pitched was very good and I have never argued that fact.
  25. mkm13
    O my gosh, did you even read the rest of what I wrote? I know how the formula works. I know it is based on performance (or runs saved). I said the problem with it is that it leaves out variables that are important. I am arguing the fact that someone said his value was 20.6 million last year (based on fangraghs). I UNDERSTAND how that simplistic formula works. Many on here apparently don't know how to make the leap to understanding its limitations. Any true stats guy would be laughingat some of this right now. The most important thing when looking at statistics is being able to analyze them. So yes, according to Fangraphs (based on their formula), Ben Sheets was worth 20.6 million last year. That doesn't tell the entire story. I already explained some of why in Ben's case it is not accurate.
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